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this is part two of my conversation with

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who is the author of my big toe a large

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theory of everything please watch part

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one

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in order to get the most out of this

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interview enjoy

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oh yeah i wanted to ask you specifically

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about your experiences when you spoke to

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other beings how did they look how did

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you interact and

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how did you get into that state a couple

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questions around that

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if this if different devices can be used

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i remember you mentioned that

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you can induce it with certain magnetic

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resonances like theta waves

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uh no not magnetic so much maybe i don't

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know never experimented with magnetic

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uh i use sound binaural beats

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ah right right right and then there's

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something called hemisync as well

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which i think is robert monroe yeah

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exactly so it's pretty much just that

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and then asking you mentioned that side

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effects are not

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able to be replicated and then like why

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there's a good explanation for that but

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sure okay uh one thing

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one of the things i should have told you

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is that if you're interested in

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a talk about science mostly yeah you

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should go to my youtube channel i know

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if you've been there yet but i got

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thousands of videos there and the one

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that you should pick out

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is called mbt 2016

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mbtla mbtla 2016.

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i was in los angeles la in 2016

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and gave a two-day talk there the first

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day

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which was all based on

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mbt science of course it was given to uh

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what year was that you said

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2016. oh okay okay okay

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i i was watching one on the marcel

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workshop

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yeah that's a real general over-the-top

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workshop but if you're just looking for

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the science do

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yeah the marseille that was in france

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so it was in marseille france and that

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was a that's a very good

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workshop that kind of gives you the the

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you know the theory you have quite a bit

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of content on your youtube channel

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i have over a thousand hours

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yeah basically uh who's that there's one

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lady that keeps talking to you and it's

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the same voice who's that voice

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donna donna evening is that the same

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lady i'm

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i was speaking to over email or is that

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a different probably the same lady she's

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she and keith her husband keith run mbt

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she's got a really good voice very soft

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it's a kind of the perfect female

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soothing pacifying did you happen to

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watch eric weinstein

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do you have much to comment on with

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regard to his theory of everything

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oh yeah the both of them yeah i did i

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looked at both of those guys and uh

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and i can comment on those

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okay so why don't i just give you a

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pitch and just like why don't you

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comment you mentioned that you watched

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eric weinstein and stephen wolfram

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videos so why don't you comment on them

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oh okay well of the two

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weinstein basically has found a geometry

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that at least in his own mind in the

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mind of a few people who are close to

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uh explains of a lot of things

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and that's not particularly surprising

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not necessarily new news either in as

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much as

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given that this is a virtual reality

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virtual reality to evolve

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is math-based it's a it's basically

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probability and randomness

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thrown in for those things that are

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happens to be a random process

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geometries and

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other math that kind of look like they

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explaining the reality you know as

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einstein did with his

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that those things are fundamental

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fundamental space-time out there that's

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it just means that he's found some

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mathematics

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that match pretty well with measurements

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it's a model that we use but don't

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confuse the model with reality

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the model of reality is different so

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ever been published it's never been

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formalized it's kind of

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unpublished work which in

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the science world that means it doesn't

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really exist yet you know it's

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until he gets it published it's not real

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he knows his math perhaps then

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that will work

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math-based reality it's computed in a

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computation for the most for the most

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deterministic rule set so that's

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but not unexpected has

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my big toe your big toe been published

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at least the theory of everything part

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of it not the more

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youtube you know but as far as papers go

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that's published in a peer review

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physics journal and that's the one that

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that i'm having done i told you about it

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by cal poly okay so first i wrote the

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and guided peer-reviewed and and howley

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not a paulie but a poly a p-o-l-y

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weinstein because it's

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it's more hearsay than anything else

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it's it's second-hand

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third-hand hearsay uh but not all that

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which it is a computed reality so you

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simulations there's a lot of common

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something that matches pretty well

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reality if you if you are if you are

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a it's a more elegant

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are there any other theories of

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very interesting one's brian's

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but the last name of brian one more time

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for me if you don't mind whitworth

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dig him up and you'll see he explains

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light and he starts with the thing

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he's a math guy but he's also an i.t guy

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processing okay that's fine

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is a is a is a fundamental thing so

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anyway so this is his idea the other

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people who are doing

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interesting work is a group called

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quantum gravity

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centered in oh i don't know about 20

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miles

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north of los angeles and

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if you research quantum if you just put

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quantum gravity

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research on the on the google you'll get

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them and the guy who runs that is

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is clee irwin all right right quick

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clee irwin yeah he runs the quantum

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gravity

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and he's got a bunch of physicists and

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some math people there and he they've

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been there for

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five or ten years now and clea is the

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financier who pays all the bills

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so he's been working on this and they've

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put some really nice videos together

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that if you want

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to get a good overview of it he has some

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really good

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professionally done videos that

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kind of explain where he's going with

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also it's a geometry

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i mean he starts with e8 which is uh

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right which is a kind of a shadow of a

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lattice if you like

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and and he works from there now both of

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these guys

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they are trying to explain

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just what we call physical reality

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they're not trying to explain the bigger

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picture they're not trying to explain

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the subjective they only want to explain

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the objective world so do they have an

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account of consciousness or no

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well they do both of them talk about

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consciousness

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but it's kind of a

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a hand-waving thing you know both of

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them

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uh would say that uh consciousness is

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fundamental

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and that their their process

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is supportive of consciousness being you

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know

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the fun a fundamental thing so i think

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they would both say that and they both

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you know consciousness is part of their

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thing

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but it's not really what they're about

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what they're really about

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isn't so much consciousness they just

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realize that consciousness is the thing

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that

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you know if you're going to have a child

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you need to explain consciousness

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you know so they bring so consciousness

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is there but it's

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not the core thing of their work the

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core thing of their work is to explain

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this physical universe

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you see so again you know

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if all you're trying to do is is is try

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join quantum mechanics and relativity

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maybe i should call that a tiny toe

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and what they're doing is looking at the

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whole physical reality whole physical

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universe so maybe that's just a little

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tao

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and then mine is basically you know the

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the uh the uh

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uh objective and the sub and and the

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subjective and consciousness

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is at the core you know as the source

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and so on so

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so then from my viewpoint that's the big

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toe because it also talks about

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people's experiences and explains those

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sorts of things which neither one of

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their models attempts to do

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so both of them started out on a on a

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idea to really derive physics

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you know derive physics from

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well for whitworth you know from a

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computer processing

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viewpoint and i'd say he's much simpler

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and that's why i like his better but now

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are

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any of these fundamentally correct well

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they're models

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you know and models are judged

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not by how correct they are models are

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judged by

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how many answers they can produce you

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know there is no

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no this model's the truth and this model

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is false it's models provide

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uh answers and if they can answer if

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they can derive

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all the facts that we know of then

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they're good models and

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qualifiable predictions yeah right right

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and falsifiable predictions then they're

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good models

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so it doesn't matter whether they're

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different or strange or bizarre or

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whatever it just

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matters how do they perform what some of

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the signs

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sorry for some of the science types who

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are listening and now probably it's

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about

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three and a half hours into this

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what is a falsifiable prediction

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or set of predictions that your big toe

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has oh well it has

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quite a few the uh on the uh

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non-physical side or on the information

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side the subjective side

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then it's all experimental but by

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individuals

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the same way you would say that

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medicine has you know viability

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you know that medicine has truths in it

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it's the same thing well you give

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somebody a pill

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and their headache goes away does that

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mean that pill took the headache away

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no maybe the headache went away anyway

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you need to do statistics and you need

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to do probability

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and then you need to show significance

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of those statistics

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before you can say that you've found

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something that looks like a fact

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so it's a different thing than what they

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call the

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hard sciences so when you're doing

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things that have to do with people

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you have to look at your your proof in

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terms of

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statistics and probabilities and

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significance

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levels okay so if you if you

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or if you or any if you or anybody else

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follows the mbt ideas

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about what's important to life you know

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what our purpose

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is here why we're here and so on you

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will find

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the results as you as you let go of that

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fear

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you will find your life changing your

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relationships will change

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all sorts of things will change well

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that's verifiable evidence

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to you so yes there's a lot of

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of um verifiable evidence

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there but it's individual because we're

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talking about a subjective world

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so it's individual to persons now you

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can look at

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100 persons that do that and see you

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know

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facts and then you can come up to a

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bigger you know an ensemble that's your

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statistics can talk about but it starts

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with the individuals

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over on the the physics side on the

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objective side

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well yeah i'm doing a set of you know

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quantum mechanics experiments now that

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are just as

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you know as just as um you know just

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like any other quantum mechanics

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experiments you set up the experiments

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you

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look at the particles to see what

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happens and you're either right or

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you're wrong you are able to predict it

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or you won't

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so the physics that i'm doing has

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a couple of experiments that will do

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things that are

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have never been done before it'll show

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us a

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piece of reality that nobody's

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really seen before in other words people

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for the last hundred years have been

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coming up with

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clever and clever quantum mechanics

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experiments

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to show you know the the weird science

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of quantum mechanics well

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the ones i'm coming up with are just

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like that too they're going to show the

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weird science

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and that word science has a good

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explanation of why it has to work that

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way

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and like i said before it'll offer

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evidence

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don't talk about proof

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in science last time we talked about

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proof in science was when we came up

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with newton's laws and then we found out

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those laws weren't laws

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after all so now we talk about theory

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because we realize that

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we don't know what the future will bring

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what kind of insights and understandings

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that will bring so is there a name for

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your quantum mechanics experiments that

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are happening at that poly institute

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um just a name for them

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no but they're all talked about people

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search for that's

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just the the thing i gave you go to

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youtube

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and look for mbtla mbt

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hyphen la 2016. if you look for that

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i introduce the experiments there the

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whole set of

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them i also explain them why they work

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and how they work

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and the experiments have been run

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already

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they are in the process of being run

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okay and we're maybe within

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months a few months of getting the

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answers from the very first one

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so we're we're chugging we're chugging

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on it it took a long time to

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gather resources you can't do that on a

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dime it's not the kind of experiment

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that's easy to do in your basement you

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know

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it's pretty sensitive stuff and takes

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the money

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to do the experiment so first i did a

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kickstarter

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to get the experiments done and

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kickstarter

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generated 236 thousand dollars to do the

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experiments

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and we've been working on those ever

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since

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you know so it's taken a while to find

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people who would do them

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a lot of scientists well a few

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scientists really started and said oh

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yeah be glad to do them you're going to

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pay for it

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great but when they heard the word

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consciousness

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was somehow connected to it no thank you

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we don't want to get involved with that

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consciousness

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that's not objective that's subjective

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and science isn't about subjective

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things so we just do science here no

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thank you

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so we ran into a lot of that so it took

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us quite a while before we found a group

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of people

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who would do it and now it's being done

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and we're getting close to the first

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answer but the

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the niftiest experiments are more

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complicated so they'll be done

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not first but later but they all are

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going to run

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out of the same basic set of equipment

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that we have so once we get the first

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one gone the other ones will start to

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come up a lot more quickly

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after that so anyway so yeah that is

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falsifiable that's just

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science like any science and when we do

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this we will write another paper

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and we will give our results and i'm

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sure that will also be published in a

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peer review

574
00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:24,320
journal because physics right now

575
00:21:27,909 --> 00:21:27,600
doesn't see virtual reality or i should

576
00:21:30,390 --> 00:21:27,919
say

577
00:21:32,310 --> 00:21:30,400
more in physics terms doesn't see

578
00:21:34,710 --> 00:21:32,320
information-based reality

579
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,720
as a really strange idea a lot of

580
00:21:38,549 --> 00:21:35,919
physics takes that

581
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:38,559
very seriously matter of fact they know

582
00:21:41,750 --> 00:21:40,080
that that's the only way they can get

583
00:21:43,029 --> 00:21:41,760
right answers in quantum mechanics is

584
00:21:46,870 --> 00:21:43,039
that they look at it as

585
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:46,880
information based so i'll get that'll be

586
00:21:49,430 --> 00:21:48,559
published in another peer review paper

587
00:21:51,270 --> 00:21:49,440
once we get the

588
00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:51,280
the information so yeah we're doing

589
00:21:55,029 --> 00:21:53,280
science congratulations

590
00:21:56,470 --> 00:21:55,039
i know it's not easy to get even a

591
00:21:56,950 --> 00:21:56,480
thousand dollars on kickstarter let

592
00:22:01,190 --> 00:21:56,960
alone

593
00:22:04,630 --> 00:22:01,200
hundred and sixty that's 200 236.

594
00:22:06,310 --> 00:22:04,640
okay 236 236 so yeah we did pretty well

595
00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:06,320
there were a whole lot of people

596
00:22:09,590 --> 00:22:08,880
who were very excited about that get

597
00:22:12,230 --> 00:22:09,600
that done

598
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:12,240
because it's it's very interesting you

599
00:22:14,070 --> 00:22:12,960
know it's going to

600
00:22:15,590 --> 00:22:14,080
be is there something that this

601
00:22:17,430 --> 00:22:15,600
experiment predicts that standard

602
00:22:19,430 --> 00:22:17,440
quantum mechanics doesn't predict

603
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:19,440
yes matter of fact this very first

604
00:22:23,029 --> 00:22:20,640
experiment we're doing

605
00:22:24,470 --> 00:22:23,039
runs very counter to what quantum

606
00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:24,480
mechanics says is true

607
00:22:29,590 --> 00:22:28,159
right now so absolutely can you give us

608
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,600
a brief overview or you just want to

609
00:22:37,110 --> 00:22:32,400
direct people well the brief

610
00:22:41,110 --> 00:22:39,430
quantum mechanics started back in ninth

611
00:22:44,630 --> 00:22:41,120
early 1920s

612
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:44,640
okay and the guys

613
00:22:51,190 --> 00:22:48,000
there you know bohr heisenberg

614
00:22:53,110 --> 00:22:51,200
vigner well einstein was was you know

615
00:22:54,710 --> 00:22:53,120
involved with them he wasn't primary in

616
00:22:58,070 --> 00:22:54,720
that but so on that

617
00:22:59,909 --> 00:22:58,080
that group of people schrodinger um

618
00:23:01,510 --> 00:22:59,919
those guys came up with in a big

619
00:23:04,630 --> 00:23:01,520
conference

620
00:23:06,710 --> 00:23:04,640
in uh copenhagen kind of a

621
00:23:08,470 --> 00:23:06,720
a statement of the results of their

622
00:23:09,669 --> 00:23:08,480
experience this was like the founding of

623
00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:09,679
quantum mechanics so

624
00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:12,720
this is what started quantum mechanics

625
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:16,559
and after that this explanation

626
00:23:20,310 --> 00:23:18,880
of here's what happened is really what

627
00:23:23,510 --> 00:23:20,320
the copenhagen

628
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,520
meeting was all about presenting results

629
00:23:27,190 --> 00:23:25,600
and here's what it means here's what it

630
00:23:34,830 --> 00:23:27,200
says

631
00:23:39,270 --> 00:23:37,430
interpretation the word interpretation

632
00:23:42,470 --> 00:23:39,280
actually got added later

633
00:23:44,630 --> 00:23:42,480
when people wanted to find something

634
00:23:45,909 --> 00:23:44,640
that was more materialist based they

635
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,919
didn't like the

636
00:23:50,070 --> 00:23:47,760
weirdness of quantum mechanics they

637
00:23:52,549 --> 00:23:50,080
wanted something that wasn't that weird

638
00:23:53,909 --> 00:23:52,559
so it turned into interpretation because

639
00:23:57,870 --> 00:23:53,919
certainly there is some

640
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:57,880
other understanding of this that's more

641
00:24:02,070 --> 00:24:00,400
materialism-based has more material

642
00:24:03,830 --> 00:24:02,080
causality involved in it

643
00:24:08,310 --> 00:24:03,840
and we just don't know it yet so it was

644
00:24:12,710 --> 00:24:10,870
that copenhagen interpretation has been

645
00:24:16,710 --> 00:24:12,720
kind of left behind

646
00:24:20,230 --> 00:24:16,720
and it uh now

647
00:24:24,470 --> 00:24:20,240
the explanation of that double slit

648
00:24:26,630 --> 00:24:24,480
has to do with entanglement

649
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:26,640
that the slits are entangled with the

650
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:28,720
particle and the whole experiment is all

651
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:29,679
entangled with

652
00:24:34,149 --> 00:24:32,080
each other and this is why you know this

653
00:24:35,990 --> 00:24:34,159
is how the information gets captured it

654
00:24:36,470 --> 00:24:36,000
gets captured in this entangled thing

655
00:24:39,110 --> 00:24:36,480
and

656
00:24:41,029 --> 00:24:39,120
so they've they've changed it in order

657
00:24:48,870 --> 00:24:41,039
to

658
00:24:50,549 --> 00:24:48,880
ideas have changed

659
00:24:53,750 --> 00:24:50,559
but nobody's actually done the

660
00:24:55,510 --> 00:24:53,760
experiments to see if that's true

661
00:24:57,350 --> 00:24:55,520
so i looked and looked and looked and i

662
00:24:58,310 --> 00:24:57,360
had some physicists who you know working

663
00:25:01,830 --> 00:24:58,320
physicists in

664
00:25:03,190 --> 00:25:01,840
academia who had access to more than i

665
00:25:05,029 --> 00:25:03,200
had to search you know they have

666
00:25:07,510 --> 00:25:05,039
better databases in their libraries and

667
00:25:09,990 --> 00:25:07,520
things to search they couldn't find any

668
00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:10,000
experiments done either any experiments

669
00:25:16,870 --> 00:25:11,120
on entanglement

670
00:25:18,390 --> 00:25:16,880
change where we went from the copenhagen

671
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,400
to the new

672
00:25:22,149 --> 00:25:21,120
the new understanding there wasn't any

673
00:25:24,630 --> 00:25:22,159
experiments done

674
00:25:25,750 --> 00:25:24,640
really to show that that new

675
00:25:27,669 --> 00:25:25,760
understanding

676
00:25:29,029 --> 00:25:27,679
added something valuable and that

677
00:25:32,149 --> 00:25:29,039
copenhagen was

678
00:25:33,830 --> 00:25:32,159
not correct they just went that way

679
00:25:35,510 --> 00:25:33,840
because they had an explanation that

680
00:25:38,149 --> 00:25:35,520
they liked better

681
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:38,159
so that seems kind of neglectful i

682
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,200
believe

683
00:25:44,310 --> 00:25:41,919
and the reason i got there was because

684
00:25:47,029 --> 00:25:44,320
my explanation that comes out of

685
00:25:48,870 --> 00:25:47,039
consciousness basically supports

686
00:25:53,430 --> 00:25:48,880
copenhagen

687
00:25:55,029 --> 00:25:53,440
you know they had the right idea now

688
00:25:56,870 --> 00:25:55,039
they didn't understand the details they

689
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:56,880
didn't understand the mechanics effects

690
00:26:00,630 --> 00:25:57,919
of how it worked

691
00:26:01,990 --> 00:26:00,640
but what they said about reality and how

692
00:26:05,269 --> 00:26:02,000
their experiments worked out

693
00:26:07,990 --> 00:26:05,279
and why they worked that way was true

694
00:26:09,190 --> 00:26:08,000
so my first experiment is to go back and

695
00:26:14,789 --> 00:26:09,200
do the

696
00:26:18,149 --> 00:26:14,799
differentiate between was copenhagen

697
00:26:21,590 --> 00:26:18,159
right or is this new entanglement

698
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:21,600
explanation right and that should be

699
00:26:27,269 --> 00:26:23,200
perfectly clear

700
00:26:31,029 --> 00:26:27,279
now what do i expect i expect that

701
00:26:34,390 --> 00:26:31,039
the copenhagen is right and when i

702
00:26:37,430 --> 00:26:34,400
show that in an experiment i expect

703
00:26:39,830 --> 00:26:37,440
that the physicists when they look at it

704
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,840
in the paper will say oh yeah well we

705
00:26:44,230 --> 00:26:41,520
knew that all along

706
00:26:45,269 --> 00:26:44,240
and they will they will do that but yet

707
00:26:47,909 --> 00:26:45,279
they have turned

708
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:47,919
and made other explanations that are

709
00:26:52,070 --> 00:26:49,200
quite contrary

710
00:26:52,470 --> 00:26:52,080
to that but that's what they all used to

711
00:26:54,470 --> 00:26:52,480
think

712
00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:54,480
you know the copenhagen was the dominant

713
00:26:59,190 --> 00:26:56,159
idea right up until

714
00:27:01,190 --> 00:26:59,200
what 20 years ago or 30 years ago that

715
00:27:02,789 --> 00:27:01,200
was the dominant most accepted idea

716
00:27:06,310 --> 00:27:02,799
about quantum mechanics

717
00:27:07,750 --> 00:27:06,320
but then that they've always had

718
00:27:11,029 --> 00:27:07,760
problems with that

719
00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,039
science with that idea

720
00:27:14,470 --> 00:27:13,039
you know with the observer effect with

721
00:27:16,230 --> 00:27:14,480
the measurement problem

722
00:27:17,669 --> 00:27:16,240
with the fact that it makes a difference

723
00:27:20,470 --> 00:27:17,679
whether somebody knows

724
00:27:20,950 --> 00:27:20,480
about the which way data they've always

725
00:27:22,789 --> 00:27:20,960
had an

726
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:22,799
issue with that because that pulls

727
00:27:27,350 --> 00:27:24,159
consciousness

728
00:27:30,389 --> 00:27:27,360
into the equation the observer

729
00:27:33,029 --> 00:27:30,399
and being very ill at ease with that

730
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:33,039
they found a way to squeeze that out

731
00:27:37,669 --> 00:27:34,240
using tanglement

732
00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:37,679
entanglement instead but this is a

733
00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:39,120
virtual reality

734
00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:42,640
the reality exists only in the minds

735
00:27:47,669 --> 00:27:45,440
of the players just like world of

736
00:27:49,430 --> 00:27:47,679
warcraft there is no place

737
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:49,440
where little elves run around and fight

738
00:27:53,669 --> 00:27:50,720
barbarians

739
00:27:55,990 --> 00:27:53,679
it doesn't really exist it only exists

740
00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:56,000
in the minds of the players

741
00:27:59,190 --> 00:27:58,640
if there are no players logged on that

742
00:28:03,190 --> 00:27:59,200
server

743
00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:03,200
serves nothing has no output

744
00:28:07,110 --> 00:28:05,279
the game only exists in the minds of the

745
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,120
players well if the game only exists in

746
00:28:11,750 --> 00:28:08,480
the minds of the players

747
00:28:14,149 --> 00:28:11,760
then it's important that a player

748
00:28:15,269 --> 00:28:14,159
get the in some information because

749
00:28:18,389 --> 00:28:15,279
that's how

750
00:28:19,590 --> 00:28:18,399
things come into that reality the server

751
00:28:22,630 --> 00:28:19,600
sends a player

752
00:28:24,230 --> 00:28:22,640
and says there's a rock here well when

753
00:28:27,110 --> 00:28:24,240
that player sees that rock

754
00:28:27,830 --> 00:28:27,120
there then that rock is now part of the

755
00:28:29,830 --> 00:28:27,840
game

756
00:28:31,269 --> 00:28:29,840
and other players will see that rock

757
00:28:33,990 --> 00:28:31,279
there too

758
00:28:34,710 --> 00:28:34,000
but it's only that rock only exists

759
00:28:36,789 --> 00:28:34,720
because

760
00:28:38,389 --> 00:28:36,799
players get that rock in their

761
00:28:39,990 --> 00:28:38,399
information

762
00:28:41,590 --> 00:28:40,000
right because the computer sends it to

763
00:28:43,830 --> 00:28:41,600
him well that's why you have this

764
00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:43,840
observer

765
00:28:50,470 --> 00:28:47,360
it only reality only comes to us

766
00:28:52,710 --> 00:28:50,480
when it is observed when a player

767
00:28:54,070 --> 00:28:52,720
gets the information so that's the

768
00:28:56,149 --> 00:28:54,080
fundamental reason why

769
00:28:57,350 --> 00:28:56,159
there is this measurement problem and

770
00:29:00,230 --> 00:28:57,360
this observer effect

771
00:29:01,510 --> 00:29:00,240
observer is fundamentally important

772
00:29:04,870 --> 00:29:01,520
because the reality

773
00:29:08,789 --> 00:29:04,880
only exists in the minds of the players

774
00:29:11,669 --> 00:29:08,799
so i get to the same idea

775
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:11,679
that the copenhagen group did and since

776
00:29:14,070 --> 00:29:12,000
then

777
00:29:15,190 --> 00:29:14,080
like i say physics left that idea behind

778
00:29:18,149 --> 00:29:15,200
because

779
00:29:20,230 --> 00:29:18,159
consciousness and and and physics tests

780
00:29:22,470 --> 00:29:20,240
was like gasoline and water

781
00:29:24,230 --> 00:29:22,480
or oil and water they didn't like it so

782
00:29:26,230 --> 00:29:24,240
they came up with something else but

783
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:26,240
they came up with that something else

784
00:29:30,470 --> 00:29:28,159
without in other words we have an

785
00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:30,480
alternative explanation

786
00:29:37,990 --> 00:29:36,320
you know kind of denies this observer

787
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,000
effect and i'm going to show that it

788
00:29:42,230 --> 00:29:40,399
does work the way that

789
00:29:43,510 --> 00:29:42,240
they said about it before so my

790
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:43,520
experiments

791
00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:46,960
should confirm the copenhagen and

792
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,679
show that the entanglement way of

793
00:29:55,190 --> 00:29:50,799
explaining it

794
00:29:57,110 --> 00:29:55,200
is wrong is not right

795
00:29:58,389 --> 00:29:57,120
so that's that's what they're going to

796
00:29:59,669 --> 00:29:58,399
do so yeah it's going to

797
00:30:01,430 --> 00:29:59,679
you know so that'll be the first

798
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:01,440
experiment that's the easiest experiment

799
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,559
to do

800
00:30:06,070 --> 00:30:04,960
so good luck with that yeah excited to

801
00:30:09,350 --> 00:30:06,080
see the results

802
00:30:11,750 --> 00:30:09,360
so yeah this theory is not uh you know

803
00:30:12,870 --> 00:30:11,760
just woo-woo that that's made up because

804
00:30:15,909 --> 00:30:12,880
it sounds good and

805
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:15,919
you know only people with weak minds and

806
00:30:19,190 --> 00:30:16,720
new agers

807
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:19,200
uh you know have taken seriously this is

808
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:20,320
real science

809
00:30:24,310 --> 00:30:23,200
and it's based on logic it does real

810
00:30:27,029 --> 00:30:24,320
physics

811
00:30:29,110 --> 00:30:27,039
and it can explain to you why you feel

812
00:30:30,950 --> 00:30:29,120
the way you do

813
00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,960
and how your why your life is the way it

814
00:30:34,389 --> 00:30:32,320
is so

815
00:30:36,470 --> 00:30:34,399
that's and what it is you need to do

816
00:30:39,350 --> 00:30:36,480
next what's your purpose here

817
00:30:40,070 --> 00:30:39,360
so it does all of that that makes it a

818
00:30:43,830 --> 00:30:40,080
big toe

819
00:30:45,510 --> 00:30:43,840
rather than a little toe or a tiny toe

820
00:30:47,029 --> 00:30:45,520
when you were speaking to some of the

821
00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,039
other beings i don't know what to call

822
00:30:51,669 --> 00:30:48,960
them but what would you call them

823
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:51,679
well you just you know the the generic

824
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,399
name is

825
00:30:58,149 --> 00:30:55,600
entity okay now so okay

826
00:30:59,110 --> 00:30:58,159
what you're talking about yeah okay i'll

827
00:31:00,789 --> 00:30:59,120
just show you what

828
00:31:02,070 --> 00:31:00,799
you know i'll tell you how that works

829
00:31:04,149 --> 00:31:02,080
and then everything else will become

830
00:31:05,990 --> 00:31:04,159
obvious afterwards

831
00:31:07,990 --> 00:31:06,000
the problem that people have and

832
00:31:11,509 --> 00:31:08,000
probably that you're having too

833
00:31:12,470 --> 00:31:11,519
is that because you have you are so

834
00:31:15,430 --> 00:31:12,480
ingrained

835
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:15,440
with a kind of a physical viewpoint of

836
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:16,159
things

837
00:31:22,630 --> 00:31:19,200
it's really hard to let that go

838
00:31:23,110 --> 00:31:22,640
and we reinterpret everything in terms

839
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,120
of

840
00:31:27,110 --> 00:31:26,159
that context and then it doesn't make

841
00:31:29,590 --> 00:31:27,120
sense

842
00:31:31,190 --> 00:31:29,600
so here goes the explanation of you know

843
00:31:35,190 --> 00:31:31,200
when you meet other things most

844
00:31:39,029 --> 00:31:35,200
out of body experiences are basically

845
00:31:45,190 --> 00:31:39,039
the person having the experience logs on

846
00:31:48,630 --> 00:31:46,630
okay you know there are sir

847
00:31:49,269 --> 00:31:48,640
single-player games right all games

848
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:49,279
aren't

849
00:31:55,909 --> 00:31:52,799
multiplayer you know what is it

850
00:31:57,830 --> 00:31:55,919
when you're having a own experience yeah

851
00:32:00,789 --> 00:31:57,840
you're having an experience

852
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,799
now when you have a single-player game

853
00:32:05,430 --> 00:32:01,760
there's often

854
00:32:07,350 --> 00:32:05,440
other characters other entities

855
00:32:08,710 --> 00:32:07,360
in that game it's not like you're there

856
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:08,720
by yourself there's

857
00:32:11,990 --> 00:32:11,039
npcs in that game and they do all kinds

858
00:32:14,710 --> 00:32:12,000
of things

859
00:32:16,789 --> 00:32:14,720
okay and you your interaction with them

860
00:32:19,830 --> 00:32:16,799
is part of how you learn how to

861
00:32:22,470 --> 00:32:19,840
win the game it's about you and them and

862
00:32:23,590 --> 00:32:22,480
and your skills and so on well most out

863
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:23,600
of bodies

864
00:32:28,070 --> 00:32:26,559
are single player games so you're

865
00:32:29,830 --> 00:32:28,080
getting a data stream now

866
00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:29,840
directly from the larger consciousness

867
00:32:35,350 --> 00:32:31,840
system and that

868
00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:35,360
that data stream is

869
00:32:40,630 --> 00:32:38,720
defining a reality

870
00:32:42,310 --> 00:32:40,640
reality the single player game is this

871
00:32:43,750 --> 00:32:42,320
one that can be shared with other people

872
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:43,760
even though it's single-player for

873
00:32:46,549 --> 00:32:44,559
example

874
00:32:48,549 --> 00:32:46,559
let's take fallout 4 it's a game it's a

875
00:32:49,430 --> 00:32:48,559
video game many people can play that

876
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:49,440
same game

877
00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,799
even though it's single player so we're

878
00:32:53,509 --> 00:32:52,720
sharing a similar experience but we're

879
00:32:57,350 --> 00:32:53,519
doing it

880
00:33:00,310 --> 00:32:57,360
on our own yes that can be like that but

881
00:33:00,950 --> 00:33:00,320
these games are often made just for that

882
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:00,960
individual

883
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,000
they're bespoke they're yeah

884
00:33:08,070 --> 00:33:07,200
i don't know about that bespoke bespoke

885
00:33:11,430 --> 00:33:08,080
they're tailor-made

886
00:33:13,830 --> 00:33:11,440
tailor-made most of the time

887
00:33:16,230 --> 00:33:13,840
now there are things that happen in

888
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,240
those games and sometimes there are

889
00:33:19,590 --> 00:33:18,159
experiences that people have that are

890
00:33:20,230 --> 00:33:19,600
identical it's like they've taken a

891
00:33:22,149 --> 00:33:20,240
module

892
00:33:23,590 --> 00:33:22,159
here and they've applied it a lot of

893
00:33:25,110 --> 00:33:23,600
places i've had

894
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:25,120
a matter of fact in my book if you've

895
00:33:28,549 --> 00:33:26,880
read that uh bob monroe and i

896
00:33:30,310 --> 00:33:28,559
had exactly the same scenario right

897
00:33:32,070 --> 00:33:30,320
that's why i was wondering

898
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:32,080
can it be shared because it seemed like

899
00:33:37,430 --> 00:33:35,919
you spoke to us to similar beings

900
00:33:39,269 --> 00:33:37,440
well now what that was was a

901
00:33:42,310 --> 00:33:39,279
standardized test

902
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,320
bob got that test i got that test

903
00:33:45,830 --> 00:33:44,720
we you get tests here from the larger

904
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:45,840
consciousness system

905
00:33:51,190 --> 00:33:49,600
why because it would

906
00:33:52,950 --> 00:33:51,200
you have to see this whole this whole

907
00:33:55,110 --> 00:33:52,960
thing that that ties together

908
00:33:56,070 --> 00:33:55,120
we're pieces of consciousness we're

909
00:33:59,110 --> 00:33:56,080
trying we

910
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:59,120
are parts of the system as we evolve by

911
00:34:02,549 --> 00:34:00,320
lowering our entropy

912
00:34:04,389 --> 00:34:02,559
the system entropy also gets lowered

913
00:34:06,710 --> 00:34:04,399
because we're part of the system

914
00:34:08,710 --> 00:34:06,720
so the system would like us to succeed

915
00:34:11,349 --> 00:34:08,720
in lowering entropy because

916
00:34:12,310 --> 00:34:11,359
it's slower you know it also evolves as

917
00:34:15,270 --> 00:34:12,320
we evolve

918
00:34:16,149 --> 00:34:15,280
its entropy gets lowered as well so it

919
00:34:21,109 --> 00:34:16,159
will often

920
00:34:23,589 --> 00:34:21,119
give us a single single-player game

921
00:34:26,470 --> 00:34:23,599
to help us learn something important to

922
00:34:28,470 --> 00:34:26,480
help us grow up

923
00:34:29,829 --> 00:34:28,480
sometimes it needs to give us some tests

924
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,839
to see just where we are

925
00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:32,000
because otherwise it can't determine

926
00:34:35,030 --> 00:34:33,679
what it is we need to help us grow up if

927
00:34:36,470 --> 00:34:35,040
it doesn't know kind of where we are in

928
00:34:38,389 --> 00:34:36,480
that growth process

929
00:34:39,750 --> 00:34:38,399
so testing is involved just like any

930
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:39,760
other school

931
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:43,520
and some of these tests are standardized

932
00:34:49,270 --> 00:34:46,800
so bob got one i got the same test

933
00:34:50,550 --> 00:34:49,280
got exactly the same questions exactly

934
00:34:53,669 --> 00:34:50,560
in the same order

935
00:34:57,270 --> 00:34:53,679
and i've run into at least

936
00:34:59,030 --> 00:34:57,280
six other people that i have shared

937
00:35:00,870 --> 00:34:59,040
tests with not the same one that i did

938
00:35:03,190 --> 00:35:00,880
with bob but others

939
00:35:04,710 --> 00:35:03,200
and we could just share what happened

940
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:04,720
and it was exactly

941
00:35:08,790 --> 00:35:07,040
the same scenario so it's like we all

942
00:35:10,230 --> 00:35:08,800
had the if you want to put it in other

943
00:35:13,430 --> 00:35:10,240
language we all had the same

944
00:35:15,430 --> 00:35:13,440
dream you know and we interacted with it

945
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:15,440
how we interacted with it but

946
00:35:19,829 --> 00:35:18,400
the layout was was all exactly the same

947
00:35:22,310 --> 00:35:19,839
so some of it yes

948
00:35:22,950 --> 00:35:22,320
will show up to different people but

949
00:35:25,430 --> 00:35:22,960
mostly

950
00:35:27,430 --> 00:35:25,440
it's a it's a one-off it's for that

951
00:35:30,150 --> 00:35:27,440
person depending on where they are

952
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:30,160
starting at their level and gives them

953
00:35:33,670 --> 00:35:31,920
challenges with things that they have to

954
00:35:34,470 --> 00:35:33,680
meet with ways that they have to grow so

955
00:35:37,430 --> 00:35:34,480
most

956
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:37,440
out of body is like that now i went on a

957
00:35:39,910 --> 00:35:39,200
on and out of body with a friend of mine

958
00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:39,920
dennis and i

959
00:35:44,390 --> 00:35:42,400
mentioned him already i think earlier we

960
00:35:47,109 --> 00:35:44,400
went on and out of body together

961
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:47,119
so that was a two-player game and we ran

962
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,480
into other entities and had

963
00:35:52,069 --> 00:35:50,000
conversations and

964
00:35:53,510 --> 00:35:52,079
did other things during that but that

965
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:53,520
was a two-player game

966
00:35:57,349 --> 00:35:55,599
so that's possible and if two is

967
00:35:58,630 --> 00:35:57,359
possible and three or four or five or

968
00:36:00,550 --> 00:35:58,640
ten's possible

969
00:36:01,990 --> 00:36:00,560
but most of that just happens in the

970
00:36:03,270 --> 00:36:02,000
margins because that gets more

971
00:36:06,390 --> 00:36:03,280
complicated

972
00:36:09,829 --> 00:36:06,400
and it you know requires more

973
00:36:10,829 --> 00:36:09,839
more scale so basically they're one-off

974
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:10,839
so when you

975
00:36:17,510 --> 00:36:14,320
go to another reality frame

976
00:36:21,510 --> 00:36:17,520
you're getting another data stream

977
00:36:25,030 --> 00:36:21,520
information defines reality

978
00:36:25,670 --> 00:36:25,040
consciousness is fundamental everything

979
00:36:29,270 --> 00:36:25,680
else

980
00:36:31,750 --> 00:36:29,280
is virtual so when you die

981
00:36:33,990 --> 00:36:31,760
you end up in another virtual reality a

982
00:36:36,390 --> 00:36:34,000
different virtual reality

983
00:36:37,109 --> 00:36:36,400
you don't end up at the source and now

984
00:36:39,270 --> 00:36:37,119
you and

985
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:39,280
consciousness are sitting down at a bar

986
00:36:44,069 --> 00:36:41,200
together having a conversation

987
00:36:44,550 --> 00:36:44,079
you don't end up in you know some place

988
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:44,560
where

989
00:36:48,470 --> 00:36:47,440
everybody's smart you just go to another

990
00:36:51,910 --> 00:36:48,480
virtual reality

991
00:36:54,950 --> 00:36:51,920
now to take that one step further if

992
00:36:55,829 --> 00:36:54,960
any space that you're in is experiential

993
00:36:57,990 --> 00:36:55,839
that means you can

994
00:37:00,150 --> 00:36:58,000
experience there it's not a matter of

995
00:37:01,990 --> 00:37:00,160
just existing but you can

996
00:37:03,750 --> 00:37:02,000
do things there's causality you know

997
00:37:05,109 --> 00:37:03,760
things you can change you can have an

998
00:37:09,270 --> 00:37:05,119
experience there

999
00:37:13,670 --> 00:37:09,280
a virtual reality

1000
00:37:15,190 --> 00:37:13,680
experience requires context

1001
00:37:18,150 --> 00:37:15,200
you can't have an experience if there's

1002
00:37:21,270 --> 00:37:18,160
no context that defines the experience

1003
00:37:23,910 --> 00:37:21,280
context is created by rules

1004
00:37:25,349 --> 00:37:23,920
rules create the context you know like

1005
00:37:27,430 --> 00:37:25,359
if i just say okay

1006
00:37:29,589 --> 00:37:27,440
kurt let's go play a game all right you

1007
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:29,599
go first go

1008
00:37:32,950 --> 00:37:30,880
well you don't know what to do because

1009
00:37:35,430 --> 00:37:32,960
there's no context there's no rules

1010
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:35,440
right so there's no game

1011
00:37:39,589 --> 00:37:38,000
rules can spontaneously emerge right for

1012
00:37:41,430 --> 00:37:39,599
example with children when they play

1013
00:37:42,790 --> 00:37:41,440
they often don't specify the rules and

1014
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:42,800
they come up with the game

1015
00:37:46,870 --> 00:37:45,599
yeah it's a collective agreement but now

1016
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,880
we can talk about collective

1017
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:49,359
consciousness and other sorts of things

1018
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:51,839
but uh i'll try to stay well let's try

1019
00:37:55,670 --> 00:37:54,320
to stay focused we zinged around so much

1020
00:37:58,230 --> 00:37:55,680
that

1021
00:38:00,230 --> 00:37:58,240
um it's just such an interesting we

1022
00:38:01,109 --> 00:38:00,240
start down this path and get about third

1023
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,119
of the way there and

1024
00:38:04,870 --> 00:38:02,960
then we go someplace else and get about

1025
00:38:05,430 --> 00:38:04,880
a third away there and zing someplace

1026
00:38:09,430 --> 00:38:05,440
else

1027
00:38:10,870 --> 00:38:09,440
so anyway your question your question uh

1028
00:38:13,829 --> 00:38:10,880
my question was essentially it's about

1029
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,839
being other seeing other entities now

1030
00:38:17,430 --> 00:38:15,359
so it's the way that i understand it

1031
00:38:19,510 --> 00:38:17,440
they're data streams you see

1032
00:38:21,349 --> 00:38:19,520
everything's a data stream so when we

1033
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:21,359
think about i talked to an entity well

1034
00:38:23,910 --> 00:38:22,720
you know where they come from where do

1035
00:38:25,670 --> 00:38:23,920
they live you know do they live in

1036
00:38:26,470 --> 00:38:25,680
houses you know do they eat do they poop

1037
00:38:27,990 --> 00:38:26,480
you know what

1038
00:38:29,670 --> 00:38:28,000
what's going on there are these really

1039
00:38:32,470 --> 00:38:29,680
people like us but

1040
00:38:35,510 --> 00:38:32,480
now it's information everything

1041
00:38:39,829 --> 00:38:35,520
consciousness is fundamental

1042
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:39,839
it creates information reality

1043
00:38:43,829 --> 00:38:42,000
exp experiential things like

1044
00:38:45,589 --> 00:38:43,839
experiencing another being

1045
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:45,599
talking to another being this is that's

1046
00:38:49,750 --> 00:38:46,960
an experiential thing

1047
00:38:51,510 --> 00:38:49,760
that happens in a virtual reality it's

1048
00:38:56,390 --> 00:38:51,520
information based

1049
00:38:58,230 --> 00:38:56,400
this reality we call the physical

1050
00:38:59,670 --> 00:38:58,240
universe it's just information

1051
00:39:01,510 --> 00:38:59,680
it only exists in the heads of the

1052
00:39:03,510 --> 00:39:01,520
players okay

1053
00:39:05,430 --> 00:39:03,520
and you go out of body and you just

1054
00:39:07,510 --> 00:39:05,440
basically log on to some

1055
00:39:10,550 --> 00:39:07,520
other virtual realities it's like going

1056
00:39:12,950 --> 00:39:10,560
from sims to world of warcraft to

1057
00:39:13,589 --> 00:39:12,960
no man's sky you know you just log on to

1058
00:39:17,030 --> 00:39:13,599
a different

1059
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,040
modern game right there though yeah so

1060
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,280
you're not stuck in 2000's anymore

1061
00:39:23,190 --> 00:39:21,760
yeah all my video knowledge is watching

1062
00:39:24,950 --> 00:39:23,200
my children play when they were

1063
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:24,960
like teenagers they're all in their

1064
00:39:27,910 --> 00:39:26,320
middle of no man's sky is a great

1065
00:39:29,349 --> 00:39:27,920
example because it's procedurally

1066
00:39:32,310 --> 00:39:29,359
generated on the spot

1067
00:39:34,069 --> 00:39:32,320
right which is the way you know reality

1068
00:39:35,670 --> 00:39:34,079
is procedurally generated

1069
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:35,680
right on the spot for the most part it's

1070
00:39:40,390 --> 00:39:37,760
a probabilistic thing so

1071
00:39:41,109 --> 00:39:40,400
yeah that's that's much more efficient

1072
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:41,119
that way

1073
00:39:48,870 --> 00:39:44,240
so in any case so if you

1074
00:39:51,190 --> 00:39:48,880
let go of the idea that reality is

1075
00:39:52,630 --> 00:39:51,200
real stuff it's mass and and you know

1076
00:39:54,829 --> 00:39:52,640
the stuff really here

1077
00:39:56,069 --> 00:39:54,839
really exists and you see it as

1078
00:39:59,190 --> 00:39:56,079
information

1079
00:40:00,950 --> 00:39:59,200
than out of bodies and dreams

1080
00:40:02,390 --> 00:40:00,960
and all of these things where we find

1081
00:40:04,150 --> 00:40:02,400
ourselves in

1082
00:40:05,829 --> 00:40:04,160
daydreams as well you know not just

1083
00:40:08,069 --> 00:40:05,839
night dreams but daydreams we find

1084
00:40:11,670 --> 00:40:08,079
ourselves in some other reality

1085
00:40:13,270 --> 00:40:11,680
it's just another data stream now we are

1086
00:40:16,630 --> 00:40:13,280
consciousness

1087
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:16,640
and we can create information

1088
00:40:22,230 --> 00:40:19,680
information is non-physical

1089
00:40:25,109 --> 00:40:22,240
information is not a physical thing it's

1090
00:40:28,710 --> 00:40:25,119
a non-physical thing information

1091
00:40:31,430 --> 00:40:28,720
is separate from data data is a physical

1092
00:40:32,390 --> 00:40:31,440
thing data you transfer things in data

1093
00:40:35,270 --> 00:40:32,400
information

1094
00:40:36,230 --> 00:40:35,280
is the is the meaning the content the

1095
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,240
significance

1096
00:40:39,910 --> 00:40:39,440
of that data it takes a consciousness to

1097
00:40:42,309 --> 00:40:39,920
have

1098
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,319
information because the consciousness

1099
00:40:46,550 --> 00:40:44,240
interprets the data

1100
00:40:47,910 --> 00:40:46,560
into its reality into some kind of

1101
00:40:49,829 --> 00:40:47,920
meaning or content without a

1102
00:40:51,109 --> 00:40:49,839
consciousness to interpret the data well

1103
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,119
it's just a

1104
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:53,920
it's a piece of paper with a lot of ink

1105
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,280
squiggles on it

1106
00:40:59,750 --> 00:40:58,319
that's not information that's data but a

1107
00:41:02,230 --> 00:40:59,760
consciousness looks at those ink

1108
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:02,240
squiggles on that page and oh

1109
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:06,240
that's information you see so

1110
00:41:12,710 --> 00:41:09,280
realities created by

1111
00:41:15,349 --> 00:41:12,720
information our sense data produces

1112
00:41:16,950 --> 00:41:15,359
information which creates this reality

1113
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:16,960
all right well it's the same with the

1114
00:41:20,710 --> 00:41:19,119
elf the else sense data

1115
00:41:22,309 --> 00:41:20,720
quote unquote you know the things that

1116
00:41:24,470 --> 00:41:22,319
it would sense the things it sees the

1117
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:24,480
things it feels the things it hears

1118
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,480
well that's all information and the

1119
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:29,040
player gets that information

1120
00:41:32,870 --> 00:41:31,119
the player sees what the elf sees and

1121
00:41:34,470 --> 00:41:32,880
what the elf hears and so on if the

1122
00:41:35,829 --> 00:41:34,480
player has a headset on and the player

1123
00:41:38,550 --> 00:41:35,839
is watching the screen

1124
00:41:40,870 --> 00:41:38,560
so at sense data so the sense data you

1125
00:41:42,710 --> 00:41:40,880
know of the elf is sent to the player

1126
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,720
and the player experiences what the elf

1127
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:44,640
experience is sort of

1128
00:41:48,150 --> 00:41:46,960
but now with consciousness it's much

1129
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:48,160
more embedded it's a

1130
00:41:53,589 --> 00:41:51,599
100 percent involvement so anyway

1131
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:53,599
so now we talk about being so what is a

1132
00:41:56,550 --> 00:41:56,000
being a being is something you can talk

1133
00:41:59,829 --> 00:41:56,560
to

1134
00:42:02,630 --> 00:41:59,839
something you can carry on a

1135
00:42:03,510 --> 00:42:02,640
conversation with it talks as opposed to

1136
00:42:06,230 --> 00:42:03,520
a rock

1137
00:42:06,870 --> 00:42:06,240
which doesn't talk back in order to get

1138
00:42:09,349 --> 00:42:06,880
to these

1139
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:09,359
single-player games these other worlds

1140
00:42:12,309 --> 00:42:09,920
let's say

1141
00:42:13,750 --> 00:42:12,319
does one have to have a lower entropy

1142
00:42:15,750 --> 00:42:13,760
already or

1143
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,760
it doesn't matter anyone can experience

1144
00:42:19,190 --> 00:42:17,119
it well

1145
00:42:20,150 --> 00:42:19,200
anyone can experience it and a lot of

1146
00:42:22,550 --> 00:42:20,160
people do

1147
00:42:23,829 --> 00:42:22,560
but if that's the case and they don't

1148
00:42:25,990 --> 00:42:23,839
have low entropy

1149
00:42:27,349 --> 00:42:26,000
it's extremely haphazard it just happens

1150
00:42:29,349 --> 00:42:27,359
when it happens

1151
00:42:31,270 --> 00:42:29,359
and sometimes it does sometimes it

1152
00:42:33,670 --> 00:42:31,280
doesn't it's just one of those things

1153
00:42:35,910 --> 00:42:33,680
that is totally out of their control

1154
00:42:37,589 --> 00:42:35,920
sometimes they have a out-of-body

1155
00:42:37,910 --> 00:42:37,599
experience sometimes they have things

1156
00:42:39,270 --> 00:42:37,920
now

1157
00:42:41,510 --> 00:42:39,280
some people learn to control it

1158
00:42:45,270 --> 00:42:41,520
reasonably well but

1159
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,280
as you lower your entropy the ease with

1160
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:47,440
which you can control it

1161
00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,960
grows it gets easier and easier

1162
00:42:54,710 --> 00:42:52,640
when you first learn to meditate it

1163
00:42:56,870 --> 00:42:54,720
takes you 15 minutes to get into a good

1164
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:56,880
meditation state eventually you can get

1165
00:43:00,069 --> 00:42:58,000
into a good meditation

1166
00:43:01,990 --> 00:43:00,079
state in a tenth of a second it doesn't

1167
00:43:04,150 --> 00:43:02,000
take long same without a body

1168
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,160
same with exploring and being in other

1169
00:43:07,349 --> 00:43:06,160
reality frames and getting information

1170
00:43:09,589 --> 00:43:07,359
out of databases

1171
00:43:11,109 --> 00:43:09,599
you can do that in fractions of a second

1172
00:43:13,510 --> 00:43:11,119
and you can parallel process

1173
00:43:14,230 --> 00:43:13,520
in more than one reality at a time so i

1174
00:43:17,750 --> 00:43:14,240
can be

1175
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:17,760
about how your poor mother fell down the

1176
00:43:20,470 --> 00:43:19,200
steps and you know hurt herself and

1177
00:43:22,309 --> 00:43:20,480
could i help heal her

1178
00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:22,319
and while i'm having a conversation with

1179
00:43:25,109 --> 00:43:23,680
you i'll be doing the healing at the

1180
00:43:26,790 --> 00:43:25,119
same time at another

1181
00:43:28,470 --> 00:43:26,800
at another level i'll be working in

1182
00:43:31,030 --> 00:43:28,480
another conscious

1183
00:43:31,670 --> 00:43:31,040
of both in some manner yeah conscious of

1184
00:43:33,589 --> 00:43:31,680
both

1185
00:43:35,589 --> 00:43:33,599
it's not that hard to do i mean it's

1186
00:43:38,150 --> 00:43:35,599
like multitasking or is it different

1187
00:43:39,510 --> 00:43:38,160
no it's like multitasking it's a similar

1188
00:43:41,829 --> 00:43:39,520
thing i mean you see

1189
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,839
people go into a sports bar and they'll

1190
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:43,520
have five different things showing on a

1191
00:43:45,910 --> 00:43:45,119
big screen you know five different sport

1192
00:43:47,829 --> 00:43:45,920
events

1193
00:43:49,589 --> 00:43:47,839
well with a little practice you can

1194
00:43:50,630 --> 00:43:49,599
watch all five of them and hardly miss

1195
00:43:52,630 --> 00:43:50,640
anything

1196
00:43:54,309 --> 00:43:52,640
you know but it is a zero-sum game you

1197
00:43:56,150 --> 00:43:54,319
can you can't spend 100

1198
00:43:57,990 --> 00:43:56,160
of your attention on anyone you have to

1199
00:44:00,230 --> 00:43:58,000
spread your attention over

1200
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,240
over all of them it's the same way with

1201
00:44:03,589 --> 00:44:02,800
this so yes you can do that because you

1202
00:44:07,109 --> 00:44:03,599
can

1203
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,119
grab hold of data streams let go of them

1204
00:44:11,589 --> 00:44:09,680
be here be there and it's all a matter

1205
00:44:15,670 --> 00:44:11,599
of focusing your intent

1206
00:44:18,710 --> 00:44:15,680
and practicing this and most people can

1207
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:18,720
do some of these things with you know

1208
00:44:20,710 --> 00:44:20,240
six months worth of practice i mean it

1209
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:20,720
doesn't

1210
00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,640
it's not that hard to do it's not oh

1211
00:44:26,069 --> 00:44:24,400
yeah speaking of transcendental

1212
00:44:27,829 --> 00:44:26,079
meditation is it better for me to do it

1213
00:44:30,470 --> 00:44:27,839
20 minutes twice a day or

1214
00:44:31,190 --> 00:44:30,480
once for one hour a day so that's three

1215
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:31,200
times as long

1216
00:44:36,230 --> 00:44:33,680
it's probably better to do it uh twice a

1217
00:44:37,990 --> 00:44:36,240
day for 20 minutes each time and

1218
00:44:39,349 --> 00:44:38,000
if that gets easy and you really enjoy

1219
00:44:40,309 --> 00:44:39,359
it and get a lot out of it then you can

1220
00:44:42,870 --> 00:44:40,319
maybe do it for

1221
00:44:44,230 --> 00:44:42,880
30 minutes twice a day i'll tell you a

1222
00:44:46,550 --> 00:44:44,240
bit of my experience

1223
00:44:48,710 --> 00:44:46,560
so firstly it's been only a month and a

1224
00:44:50,470 --> 00:44:48,720
half and i haven't done it consistently

1225
00:44:52,390 --> 00:44:50,480
but the times that i find when i do it

1226
00:44:53,190 --> 00:44:52,400
longer the shorter times i get virtually

1227
00:44:54,630 --> 00:44:53,200
nothing out of it

1228
00:44:56,550 --> 00:44:54,640
and most of the time i get virtually

1229
00:44:57,990 --> 00:44:56,560
nothing out of it but some of the times

1230
00:44:59,589 --> 00:44:58,000
i get

1231
00:45:01,589 --> 00:44:59,599
it's more like i'm in a place where i

1232
00:45:03,349 --> 00:45:01,599
feel like i'm floating

1233
00:45:05,510 --> 00:45:03,359
it's almost like i'm swimming slowly and

1234
00:45:06,230 --> 00:45:05,520
i imagine like analogize it to a turtle

1235
00:45:09,190 --> 00:45:06,240
just like

1236
00:45:09,750 --> 00:45:09,200
hello this is interesting and then

1237
00:45:13,670 --> 00:45:09,760
there's

1238
00:45:15,829 --> 00:45:13,680
also some clarity not just some but

1239
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,839
it's strange i have a distracted mind

1240
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:17,440
and so it's calming some of that down

1241
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:18,000
but it takes

1242
00:45:21,349 --> 00:45:20,000
quite a bit of time to calm it down

1243
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:21,359
first of all so that's why i have to do

1244
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:22,560
it for longer that's why i was asking

1245
00:45:25,750 --> 00:45:23,440
maybe one hour

1246
00:45:26,550 --> 00:45:25,760
better for me for you it for you it may

1247
00:45:28,390 --> 00:45:26,560
be yeah

1248
00:45:29,829 --> 00:45:28,400
like i say it's processed now eventually

1249
00:45:32,870 --> 00:45:29,839
you can do it very quickly

1250
00:45:36,069 --> 00:45:32,880
but in the beginning it's a it's a slow

1251
00:45:38,470 --> 00:45:36,079
trip for most people they constantly

1252
00:45:39,190 --> 00:45:38,480
have thoughts coming into their mind

1253
00:45:41,349 --> 00:45:39,200
that they need

1254
00:45:43,190 --> 00:45:41,359
to let go of and until they can sit for

1255
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,200
say a half an hour with no

1256
00:45:47,430 --> 00:45:45,520
no thoughts in their mind at all let's

1257
00:45:49,910 --> 00:45:47,440
imagine that my mantra was

1258
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:49,920
shima just for the sake of this okay i

1259
00:45:53,030 --> 00:45:51,280
don't know if i'm saying it properly am

1260
00:45:54,710 --> 00:45:53,040
i supposed to just repeat she mushy

1261
00:45:56,470 --> 00:45:54,720
am i or am i supposed to time it with my

1262
00:45:57,349 --> 00:45:56,480
breath or is that a mistake because now

1263
00:45:59,109 --> 00:45:57,359
i'm

1264
00:46:00,470 --> 00:45:59,119
consciously timing it with my breath i

1265
00:46:01,829 --> 00:46:00,480
find it it happens

1266
00:46:03,589 --> 00:46:01,839
automatically it goes with my brain

1267
00:46:06,870 --> 00:46:03,599
right so the thing is

1268
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,880
you want to let your intellect sit down

1269
00:46:10,390 --> 00:46:08,160
and be quiet

1270
00:46:11,750 --> 00:46:10,400
so if synchronizing it requires your

1271
00:46:13,670 --> 00:46:11,760
intellect to do it

1272
00:46:15,190 --> 00:46:13,680
you have to think about it to do it then

1273
00:46:17,829 --> 00:46:15,200
it's a problem

1274
00:46:19,510 --> 00:46:17,839
you want things to just happen so you

1275
00:46:21,829 --> 00:46:19,520
just say your mantra

1276
00:46:24,069 --> 00:46:21,839
and it's you you think it you don't say

1277
00:46:25,750 --> 00:46:24,079
it out loud you just think your mantra

1278
00:46:28,150 --> 00:46:25,760
and you think it and what you're doing

1279
00:46:31,829 --> 00:46:28,160
is you're filling your awareness

1280
00:46:35,109 --> 00:46:31,839
full of non-operable junk

1281
00:46:37,510 --> 00:46:35,119
a mantra a nonsense thing

1282
00:46:39,270 --> 00:46:37,520
and you say that and that fills your

1283
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:39,280
mind

1284
00:46:43,270 --> 00:46:40,720
your wife's real cute with her little

1285
00:46:44,550 --> 00:46:43,280
ears up on top of her head i know i told

1286
00:46:45,910 --> 00:46:44,560
her can you just sneak by

1287
00:46:47,910 --> 00:46:45,920
and not say anything don't even

1288
00:46:48,950 --> 00:46:47,920
acknowledge me usually we kiss before

1289
00:46:51,910 --> 00:46:48,960
she goes but

1290
00:46:53,750 --> 00:46:51,920
i said i'm gonna be in this oh you

1291
00:46:55,750 --> 00:46:53,760
should have kissed her

1292
00:46:57,430 --> 00:46:55,760
that's all right you you're you can

1293
00:47:00,390 --> 00:46:57,440
always edit that out but yeah

1294
00:47:00,870 --> 00:47:00,400
anyway the little ears were cute yeah uh

1295
00:47:03,910 --> 00:47:00,880
okay

1296
00:47:05,589 --> 00:47:03,920
so where were we um yeah if it takes to

1297
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:05,599
take it to all the time it needs if it

1298
00:47:08,630 --> 00:47:07,200
takes you a half an hour

1299
00:47:10,470 --> 00:47:08,640
just to get to the point where it's

1300
00:47:12,470 --> 00:47:10,480
getting productive then

1301
00:47:14,550 --> 00:47:12,480
take that time because stopping before

1302
00:47:15,990 --> 00:47:14,560
it gets productive is not good

1303
00:47:18,230 --> 00:47:16,000
you need to get a time when it's

1304
00:47:19,589 --> 00:47:18,240
productive but i'll challenge you with

1305
00:47:20,309 --> 00:47:19,599
something else that when you're that

1306
00:47:21,750 --> 00:47:20,319
turtle

1307
00:47:24,230 --> 00:47:21,760
and you're just up there and you're kind

1308
00:47:27,589 --> 00:47:24,240
of drifting and whatever

1309
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:27,599
now if you have an intent that you would

1310
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:28,720
like to

1311
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:32,319
see what was going on in your

1312
00:47:35,829 --> 00:47:35,359
mother-in-law's house or your parents

1313
00:47:38,630 --> 00:47:35,839
house

1314
00:47:40,870 --> 00:47:38,640
or with your best friend who lives

1315
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:40,880
someplace else what is he doing now

1316
00:47:44,870 --> 00:47:43,520
have that intention and just let things

1317
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:44,880
come into your mind

1318
00:47:48,309 --> 00:47:47,119
yeah okay help me out with the

1319
00:47:49,190 --> 00:47:48,319
difference between intention and

1320
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,200
intellect because

1321
00:47:52,630 --> 00:47:51,200
i imagine that if i was to intend it

1322
00:47:53,270 --> 00:47:52,640
then it would be as if i'm using my

1323
00:47:55,270 --> 00:47:53,280
intellect

1324
00:47:56,870 --> 00:47:55,280
no yes that's a problem if you're using

1325
00:47:59,030 --> 00:47:56,880
your intellect that will

1326
00:48:00,470 --> 00:47:59,040
destroy it and that's the hardest thing

1327
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,480
for you to get through

1328
00:48:04,069 --> 00:48:02,240
is to get your intellect to sit down and

1329
00:48:05,910 --> 00:48:04,079
be quiet because you are

1330
00:48:08,069 --> 00:48:05,920
an intellectual you lead with your

1331
00:48:09,910 --> 00:48:08,079
intellect your intellect does all the

1332
00:48:12,710 --> 00:48:09,920
judging and the assessing

1333
00:48:14,630 --> 00:48:12,720
and so on and you have a really hard

1334
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:14,640
time

1335
00:48:18,230 --> 00:48:16,800
engaging in anything without your

1336
00:48:21,109 --> 00:48:18,240
intellect leading

1337
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,119
so your problem will be your intellect's

1338
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:22,400
always going to jump

1339
00:48:26,950 --> 00:48:24,960
in front to take charge because that's

1340
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:26,960
how you live your life

1341
00:48:31,349 --> 00:48:29,440
so that will be your most difficult

1342
00:48:31,829 --> 00:48:31,359
thing but if you can let that intellect

1343
00:48:37,510 --> 00:48:31,839
just

1344
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:37,520
don't judge it don't assess it don't

1345
00:48:41,910 --> 00:48:38,800
analyze it

1346
00:48:43,910 --> 00:48:41,920
just experience it now that sounds easy

1347
00:48:45,589 --> 00:48:43,920
but it's hard when your intellect jumps

1348
00:48:47,190 --> 00:48:45,599
in let's say that you do and you're just

1349
00:48:49,109 --> 00:48:47,200
a turtle and you might say

1350
00:48:50,630 --> 00:48:49,119
well is there anybody out there i could

1351
00:48:52,630 --> 00:48:50,640
communicate with

1352
00:48:53,910 --> 00:48:52,640
a thought and something would come you

1353
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:53,920
get some answer back

1354
00:48:57,109 --> 00:48:55,359
and as soon as you get the answer back

1355
00:48:59,190 --> 00:48:57,119
you go what what was that

1356
00:49:00,870 --> 00:48:59,200
who was that did i just make that up you

1357
00:49:03,109 --> 00:49:00,880
see your intellect jumps

1358
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:03,119
right to it but if you can keep that

1359
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:04,880
intellect from jumping in

1360
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:07,359
and just experience let it go wherever

1361
00:49:11,270 --> 00:49:08,480
it goes

1362
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:11,280
it doesn't matter what the content is it

1363
00:49:13,349 --> 00:49:12,400
doesn't matter whether it's all

1364
00:49:16,549 --> 00:49:13,359
ridiculous

1365
00:49:17,990 --> 00:49:16,559
just let it go wherever it goes however

1366
00:49:19,990 --> 00:49:18,000
it wants to go there

1367
00:49:21,589 --> 00:49:20,000
you're a scientist you just want to know

1368
00:49:22,870 --> 00:49:21,599
what's going to happen if i just let

1369
00:49:25,109 --> 00:49:22,880
this thing run

1370
00:49:27,270 --> 00:49:25,119
not judge whether this is real or

1371
00:49:30,950 --> 00:49:27,280
whether this is helpful or anything else

1372
00:49:32,470 --> 00:49:30,960
just experience and if you can do that

1373
00:49:35,589 --> 00:49:32,480
then at that point where you're the

1374
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:35,599
turtle drifting you can have an intent

1375
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:39,040
and to see something somewhere and

1376
00:49:44,630 --> 00:49:42,559
that means you're remote viewing now

1377
00:49:45,589 --> 00:49:44,640
or you can have an intent to look at

1378
00:49:48,950 --> 00:49:45,599
somebody's

1379
00:49:49,670 --> 00:49:48,960
health and say that they you see like a

1380
00:49:51,589 --> 00:49:49,680
humanoid

1381
00:49:53,270 --> 00:49:51,599
body that's all white and you can say

1382
00:49:56,230 --> 00:49:53,280
the white is healthy and the black

1383
00:49:57,990 --> 00:49:56,240
anything black or dark is unhealthy and

1384
00:49:59,829 --> 00:49:58,000
the more unhealthy it is the darker

1385
00:50:01,430 --> 00:49:59,839
it is so a light gray thing would be

1386
00:50:03,750 --> 00:50:01,440
somebody that's maybe

1387
00:50:05,109 --> 00:50:03,760
uh you know not feeling too well has a

1388
00:50:07,190 --> 00:50:05,119
cold uh

1389
00:50:09,349 --> 00:50:07,200
the flu or something and maybe a big

1390
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:09,359
black spot right here would be a

1391
00:50:12,710 --> 00:50:10,880
you know a tumor in a lung or in a

1392
00:50:14,309 --> 00:50:12,720
breast or something so

1393
00:50:16,710 --> 00:50:14,319
anyway you can do these things with your

1394
00:50:18,549 --> 00:50:16,720
mind is there an activity that you find

1395
00:50:20,710 --> 00:50:18,559
works particularly well for

1396
00:50:21,829 --> 00:50:20,720
somewhat beginners like myself for

1397
00:50:24,230 --> 00:50:21,839
example you just mentioned

1398
00:50:25,990 --> 00:50:24,240
go in and say is there anyone here i

1399
00:50:28,870 --> 00:50:26,000
could talk to and then see what happens

1400
00:50:33,109 --> 00:50:28,880
are there any more suggestions well yes

1401
00:50:36,790 --> 00:50:35,430
start with an intention of why you want

1402
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:36,800
to do this

1403
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,960
if why you want to do it is just to

1404
00:50:46,549 --> 00:50:40,480
experience

1405
00:50:49,750 --> 00:50:46,559
you know if that

1406
00:50:50,309 --> 00:50:49,760
is your point that's okay but it's even

1407
00:50:52,390 --> 00:50:50,319
better

1408
00:50:53,829 --> 00:50:52,400
if you'd like to grow up you'd like to

1409
00:50:55,589 --> 00:50:53,839
become more you'd like to have a bigger

1410
00:50:58,470 --> 00:50:55,599
picture you'd like to increase

1411
00:50:59,510 --> 00:50:58,480
your understanding you'd like to to know

1412
00:51:02,549 --> 00:50:59,520
is there

1413
00:51:03,109 --> 00:51:02,559
and it can't be okay so for example it

1414
00:51:04,950 --> 00:51:03,119
can't be

1415
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:04,960
how can i solve this particular problem

1416
00:51:07,589 --> 00:51:06,160
i can't go in with that intention

1417
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,599
because that would automatically be

1418
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:08,960
engaging my intellect from the game it

1419
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:09,440
would be

1420
00:51:15,430 --> 00:51:13,280
that would do you now

1421
00:51:16,309 --> 00:51:15,440
man one of your first times with the

1422
00:51:18,390 --> 00:51:16,319
debugging

1423
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:18,400
is inspirational to me yeah i'm not

1424
00:51:21,270 --> 00:51:19,839
saying it's it's uh

1425
00:51:23,109 --> 00:51:21,280
even hard to do i'm saying it'll

1426
00:51:25,910 --> 00:51:23,119
probably be hard for you to do

1427
00:51:27,750 --> 00:51:25,920
so i wouldn't ex that you start that way

1428
00:51:29,750 --> 00:51:27,760
that's because your intellect will get

1429
00:51:31,430 --> 00:51:29,760
into that problem right away but once

1430
00:51:32,309 --> 00:51:31,440
you get to the point where you can get

1431
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:32,319
into this

1432
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,200
intuitive state or being level state and

1433
00:51:39,829 --> 00:51:37,280
not an intellectual state

1434
00:51:40,710 --> 00:51:39,839
then there's all kinds of things that

1435
00:51:42,790 --> 00:51:40,720
are open to you

1436
00:51:44,549 --> 00:51:42,800
that you can do and yes solving problems

1437
00:51:48,549 --> 00:51:44,559
are one of them

1438
00:51:51,430 --> 00:51:48,559
you can you can do things like that so

1439
00:51:53,109 --> 00:51:51,440
developing what you're doing now what i

1440
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:53,119
encourage you to do

1441
00:51:57,910 --> 00:51:55,920
is to develop your intuitive side spend

1442
00:51:59,430 --> 00:51:57,920
some time like you've spent developing

1443
00:52:01,670 --> 00:51:59,440
your intellectual side

1444
00:52:03,109 --> 00:52:01,680
developing your intuitive side and it

1445
00:52:04,069 --> 00:52:03,119
will take a little time and some

1446
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:04,079
practice

1447
00:52:07,270 --> 00:52:06,160
but you have to do that by getting your

1448
00:52:10,230 --> 00:52:07,280
intellect

1449
00:52:11,270 --> 00:52:10,240
to sit down and be quiet and not

1450
00:52:14,390 --> 00:52:11,280
interrupt

1451
00:52:16,790 --> 00:52:14,400
not jump into it you have to just plain

1452
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:16,800
experience in other words instead of

1453
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:17,680
doing

1454
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,800
you have to just be you and your mind

1455
00:52:23,829 --> 00:52:22,319
just being which see

1456
00:52:25,910 --> 00:52:23,839
that's why everybody starts with

1457
00:52:28,309 --> 00:52:25,920
meditation that's the end point of your

1458
00:52:29,990 --> 00:52:28,319
meditation is to just be

1459
00:52:32,390 --> 00:52:30,000
not to be thinking about anything just

1460
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:32,400
to be to exist kind of the descarte

1461
00:52:37,750 --> 00:52:33,200
moment right

1462
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:37,760
you know i am i exist

1463
00:52:43,990 --> 00:52:41,359
i have a i have mind and if you can

1464
00:52:44,870 --> 00:52:44,000
settle into that state which is what

1465
00:52:47,109 --> 00:52:44,880
you're learning

1466
00:52:49,190 --> 00:52:47,119
through your meditation practice and

1467
00:52:51,430 --> 00:52:49,200
then you can maintain that state without

1468
00:52:53,430 --> 00:52:51,440
your intellect jumping into the game

1469
00:52:56,230 --> 00:52:53,440
you will be able to do all of the

1470
00:52:57,910 --> 00:52:56,240
paranormal things rather easily

1471
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:57,920
they're not that hard to do and

1472
00:53:01,190 --> 00:53:00,559
eventually getting into that intuitive

1473
00:53:04,230 --> 00:53:01,200
space

1474
00:53:06,630 --> 00:53:04,240
will be easy because you've done it

1475
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:06,640
hundreds of times you'll have done

1476
00:53:10,069 --> 00:53:08,720
evidential things hundreds of times and

1477
00:53:11,990 --> 00:53:10,079
you'll see that well

1478
00:53:13,670 --> 00:53:12,000
these times when i kind of entered it

1479
00:53:16,710 --> 00:53:13,680
this way it worked

1480
00:53:18,630 --> 00:53:16,720
really well and these times when i

1481
00:53:20,230 --> 00:53:18,640
it was different you had a different

1482
00:53:21,750 --> 00:53:20,240
approach to it a different attitude and

1483
00:53:24,870 --> 00:53:21,760
so on it didn't work

1484
00:53:25,829 --> 00:53:24,880
so you will learn what works what

1485
00:53:27,910 --> 00:53:25,839
doesn't work

1486
00:53:30,710 --> 00:53:27,920
so working with evidential stuff is an

1487
00:53:34,309 --> 00:53:30,720
important way to start

1488
00:53:36,230 --> 00:53:34,319
things that you can verify later

1489
00:53:37,910 --> 00:53:36,240
and one of the main reasons to meditate

1490
00:53:39,030 --> 00:53:37,920
is simply to calm down to remove the

1491
00:53:41,109 --> 00:53:39,040
distractions

1492
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:41,119
so does that mean that like for example

1493
00:53:44,470 --> 00:53:42,960
later today i have a massage

1494
00:53:46,470 --> 00:53:44,480
should i be meditating when i get my

1495
00:53:49,030 --> 00:53:46,480
massage i imagine that if i try i would

1496
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:49,040
just be pulled out by the frequent

1497
00:53:55,190 --> 00:53:52,240
pain well

1498
00:53:56,870 --> 00:53:55,200
you should probably to maximize the

1499
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:56,880
effect of the massage

1500
00:54:00,309 --> 00:53:59,680
you should be with that massage in other

1501
00:54:03,109 --> 00:54:00,319
words your

1502
00:54:05,589 --> 00:54:03,119
your your mind your your awareness

1503
00:54:08,309 --> 00:54:05,599
should be

1504
00:54:10,069 --> 00:54:08,319
with the body in the sense that you're

1505
00:54:11,990 --> 00:54:10,079
not thinking about anything

1506
00:54:14,069 --> 00:54:12,000
but you're feeling everything every

1507
00:54:15,829 --> 00:54:14,079
touch every push

1508
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,839
and you want your mind you don't want to

1509
00:54:18,230 --> 00:54:17,760
feel this lady man she hurts like heck

1510
00:54:20,549 --> 00:54:18,240
man

1511
00:54:21,990 --> 00:54:20,559
you wouldn't it's way too much i have to

1512
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:22,000
distract myself from that

1513
00:54:27,270 --> 00:54:24,720
well tell her to ease off then say no

1514
00:54:29,750 --> 00:54:27,280
not so hard there makes her go harder

1515
00:54:30,790 --> 00:54:29,760
i'm just kidding yeah i like i like a

1516
00:54:33,510 --> 00:54:30,800
fairly hard

1517
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:33,520
massage myself i like it if it hurts

1518
00:54:35,510 --> 00:54:34,000
good

1519
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:35,520
as soon as i say that it's painful she

1520
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:37,200
said oh great we have some friends and

1521
00:54:41,270 --> 00:54:38,960
then she goes a little bit harder

1522
00:54:42,710 --> 00:54:41,280
quickly as an aside i had to have to

1523
00:54:44,470 --> 00:54:42,720
interrupt and let you know that in south

1524
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:44,480
etobicoke if you're in south etobicoke

1525
00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:45,200
in toronto

1526
00:54:48,870 --> 00:54:47,359
and you want the best massages at least

1527
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:48,880
the best massage that i've ever had from

1528
00:54:52,630 --> 00:54:50,480
a registered massage therapist

1529
00:54:53,910 --> 00:54:52,640
that is an rmt someone who can write a

1530
00:54:54,710 --> 00:54:53,920
note so that you can claim it under

1531
00:54:56,710 --> 00:54:54,720
health insurance

1532
00:54:58,309 --> 00:54:56,720
she fixes parts of my back and my

1533
00:55:01,430 --> 00:54:58,319
shoulder that i had no idea

1534
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:01,440
needed remedying the best massages that

1535
00:55:04,309 --> 00:55:03,040
i've ever had are with her

1536
00:55:06,230 --> 00:55:04,319
i'm getting nothing from this

1537
00:55:07,510 --> 00:55:06,240
testimonial nothing at all no free

1538
00:55:09,430 --> 00:55:07,520
massages nothing

1539
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:09,440
i just believe in her a tremendous

1540
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,440
amount she's a tiny lady who

1541
00:55:15,030 --> 00:55:12,799
happens to be extremely strong for

1542
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:15,040
whatever reason almost every person that

1543
00:55:17,990 --> 00:55:15,920
have referenced to her

1544
00:55:19,750 --> 00:55:18,000
loves her and becomes a repeat client so

1545
00:55:20,630 --> 00:55:19,760
if you like deep tissue massages and you

1546
00:55:23,910 --> 00:55:20,640
can handle pain

1547
00:55:25,910 --> 00:55:23,920
then email toe indiefilmtio.com

1548
00:55:27,190 --> 00:55:25,920
and i'll text you or email you her

1549
00:55:30,230 --> 00:55:27,200
number but she's

1550
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:30,240
wonderful the best massages in your mind

1551
00:55:35,829 --> 00:55:32,000
what you have to focus on

1552
00:55:38,870 --> 00:55:35,839
is that her hands are releasing

1553
00:55:41,589 --> 00:55:38,880
stress her hands are releasing knots

1554
00:55:43,430 --> 00:55:41,599
knots are little balls of stress and

1555
00:55:44,230 --> 00:55:43,440
that you are going to feel better you're

1556
00:55:48,309 --> 00:55:44,240
going to be

1557
00:55:49,990 --> 00:55:48,319
immune system is going to work better

1558
00:55:51,829 --> 00:55:50,000
you physically are going to be more in

1559
00:55:54,470 --> 00:55:51,839
tune without all these little stress

1560
00:55:55,829 --> 00:55:54,480
knots in it and if you see that soon you

1561
00:55:58,870 --> 00:55:55,839
feel that pain

1562
00:56:02,150 --> 00:55:58,880
feel that stress being pushed

1563
00:56:04,069 --> 00:56:02,160
out of your body imagine

1564
00:56:05,829 --> 00:56:04,079
that muscle instead of being knotted up

1565
00:56:07,510 --> 00:56:05,839
like that just relaxing

1566
00:56:08,789 --> 00:56:07,520
and am i repeating the mantra at this

1567
00:56:09,910 --> 00:56:08,799
point or this has nothing to do with

1568
00:56:12,710 --> 00:56:09,920
transcendental well

1569
00:56:14,630 --> 00:56:12,720
it does have it's all related but you

1570
00:56:16,870 --> 00:56:14,640
don't have to repeat the mantra

1571
00:56:19,430 --> 00:56:16,880
you can that helps keep you in that

1572
00:56:21,670 --> 00:56:19,440
space yes you can keep saying the mantra

1573
00:56:23,349 --> 00:56:21,680
and then as you feel things yeah as you

1574
00:56:26,549 --> 00:56:23,359
feel things then

1575
00:56:27,910 --> 00:56:26,559
then have the intention that all those

1576
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:27,920
things you feel

1577
00:56:33,750 --> 00:56:31,040
are making you healthier they're all

1578
00:56:35,430 --> 00:56:33,760
making you better you're getting rid of

1579
00:56:38,470 --> 00:56:35,440
toxins and poisons and

1580
00:56:40,069 --> 00:56:38,480
and knots of stress and tension

1581
00:56:42,549 --> 00:56:40,079
and it's all going to help you think

1582
00:56:45,589 --> 00:56:42,559
better and be better and move better

1583
00:56:47,589 --> 00:56:45,599
so now you translate that pain

1584
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:47,599
into oh that feels like i'm getting

1585
00:56:51,030 --> 00:56:49,920
better that feels like i'm getting rid

1586
00:56:53,270 --> 00:56:51,040
of stress

1587
00:56:54,150 --> 00:56:53,280
and when you have a positive attitude

1588
00:56:56,390 --> 00:56:54,160
toward it rather

1589
00:56:57,270 --> 00:56:56,400
oh that feels like pain you know that

1590
00:56:59,190 --> 00:56:57,280
hurts

1591
00:57:00,789 --> 00:56:59,200
the more you think about it the more you

1592
00:57:02,950 --> 00:57:00,799
think about it the more it hurts

1593
00:57:04,150 --> 00:57:02,960
change the way i frame it change the way

1594
00:57:07,270 --> 00:57:04,160
you frame it frame it

1595
00:57:09,589 --> 00:57:07,280
posit it positively but do it

1596
00:57:12,150 --> 00:57:09,599
not intellectually but just because

1597
00:57:14,630 --> 00:57:12,160
you're floating there like a turtle and

1598
00:57:16,069 --> 00:57:14,640
a turtle and turtle getting a turtle

1599
00:57:18,549 --> 00:57:16,079
getting a massage

1600
00:57:19,109 --> 00:57:18,559
but your intention is that that massage

1601
00:57:23,349 --> 00:57:19,119
is a

1602
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,359
health it could put your

1603
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,440
positive intent to it and then all

1604
00:57:30,470 --> 00:57:27,040
through the massage

1605
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:30,480
you are raising the probability of that

1606
00:57:34,549 --> 00:57:32,160
massage

1607
00:57:36,390 --> 00:57:34,559
giving you much better health because

1608
00:57:39,190 --> 00:57:36,400
your intention modifies the future

1609
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,200
probability

1610
00:57:45,990 --> 00:57:42,240
so anyway yes you can

1611
00:57:48,630 --> 00:57:46,000
engage that way now eventually

1612
00:57:50,069 --> 00:57:48,640
when you've practiced this for i don't

1613
00:57:51,510 --> 00:57:50,079
know you're very left brain

1614
00:57:53,109 --> 00:57:51,520
like me i was like that i was a

1615
00:57:54,309 --> 00:57:53,119
physicist you know physicists are very

1616
00:57:56,549 --> 00:57:54,319
left brained very

1617
00:57:57,910 --> 00:57:56,559
logical process oriented so though you

1618
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:57,920
said that you were able to get to that

1619
00:58:01,270 --> 00:57:59,680
state fairly easily at least in your

1620
00:58:03,190 --> 00:58:01,280
first time because you'd remember that

1621
00:58:05,990 --> 00:58:03,200
you'd done it when you were young yeah

1622
00:58:07,589 --> 00:58:06,000
yeah i fell into that very very easily

1623
00:58:08,470 --> 00:58:07,599
when i picked it up again in graduate

1624
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:08,480
school

1625
00:58:12,710 --> 00:58:11,040
but in any case and i came into this

1626
00:58:15,829 --> 00:58:12,720
world a very right-brained

1627
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:15,839
little guy and i knew that i had to

1628
00:58:20,069 --> 00:58:16,880
develop

1629
00:58:20,390 --> 00:58:20,079
the the logical side that i had already

1630
00:58:21,990 --> 00:58:20,400
a

1631
00:58:23,430 --> 00:58:22,000
pretty strong intuitive side but i

1632
00:58:25,829 --> 00:58:23,440
needed a logical side

1633
00:58:26,789 --> 00:58:25,839
and it wasn't easy i worked very very

1634
00:58:29,349 --> 00:58:26,799
hard to

1635
00:58:30,549 --> 00:58:29,359
develop that intellectual side and that

1636
00:58:32,710 --> 00:58:30,559
logical side

1637
00:58:34,950 --> 00:58:32,720
and eventually it became easy you know

1638
00:58:38,150 --> 00:58:34,960
if you work on something that

1639
00:58:38,789 --> 00:58:38,160
it gets easier and easier so i've

1640
00:58:42,069 --> 00:58:38,799
already

1641
00:58:43,990 --> 00:58:42,079
started this life more intuitive

1642
00:58:45,910 --> 00:58:44,000
had to develop the left side so that's

1643
00:58:48,069 --> 00:58:45,920
my own thing but

1644
00:58:49,109 --> 00:58:48,079
a lot of people see i see a lot of

1645
00:58:51,750 --> 00:58:49,119
people like you

1646
00:58:53,750 --> 00:58:51,760
who are connected with my book because

1647
00:58:54,230 --> 00:58:53,760
it is the only on-ramp to a bigger

1648
00:58:56,710 --> 00:58:54,240
picture

1649
00:58:57,990 --> 00:58:56,720
for logical process people it is a

1650
00:59:01,430 --> 00:58:58,000
logical

1651
00:59:04,470 --> 00:59:01,440
uh process so quite a few people

1652
00:59:05,190 --> 00:59:04,480
when i teach people how to do paranormal

1653
00:59:07,589 --> 00:59:05,200
things

1654
00:59:08,390 --> 00:59:07,599
quite a few of them are just like you

1655
00:59:11,030 --> 00:59:08,400
they are

1656
00:59:12,069 --> 00:59:11,040
very left brain dominant very logical

1657
00:59:15,430 --> 00:59:12,079
process dominant

1658
00:59:16,549 --> 00:59:15,440
but all of them have some great

1659
00:59:18,150 --> 00:59:16,559
successes

1660
00:59:19,990 --> 00:59:18,160
after a while a process like when you

1661
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:20,000
teach them do you start with

1662
00:59:23,109 --> 00:59:21,119
transcendental and then

1663
00:59:25,109 --> 00:59:23,119
you just do a regimen of do that twice a

1664
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:25,119
day and then come back and then

1665
00:59:28,230 --> 00:59:27,440
after two weeks try this one out try

1666
00:59:31,589 --> 00:59:28,240
healing your

1667
00:59:32,069 --> 00:59:31,599
spouse if you want to uh if you want to

1668
00:59:34,549 --> 00:59:32,079
go through

1669
00:59:37,510 --> 00:59:34,559
the process it's easy to do again

1670
00:59:40,630 --> 00:59:37,520
everything i do i try to make it free

1671
00:59:44,150 --> 00:59:40,640
and you can go to my youtube site

1672
00:59:46,870 --> 00:59:44,160
and look for the very latest tmi

1673
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,880
video tmi the monroe institute okay i

1674
00:59:49,589 --> 00:59:48,799
went to the monroe institute just as a

1675
00:59:51,030 --> 00:59:49,599
facility

1676
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:51,040
they wanted me they asked me to come

1677
00:59:53,430 --> 00:59:52,720
there so i did and i gave one of my

1678
00:59:55,349 --> 00:59:53,440
courses

1679
00:59:56,789 --> 00:59:55,359
telling people how to experience the

1680
00:59:59,030 --> 00:59:56,799
larger system

1681
00:59:59,990 --> 00:59:59,040
and the reason i give those courses i re

1682
01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:00,000
i

1683
01:00:09,190 --> 01:00:06,160
of body

1684
01:00:11,670 --> 01:00:09,200
or mr paranormal i'm a i'm a physicist i

1685
01:00:13,990 --> 01:00:11,680
want to be taken seriously so i kind of

1686
01:00:16,549 --> 01:00:14,000
low key that but on the other hand i

1687
01:00:18,870 --> 01:00:16,559
tell people that if it's not your

1688
01:00:19,670 --> 01:00:18,880
experience it's not your truth so go go

1689
01:00:21,670 --> 01:00:19,680
learn

1690
01:00:22,870 --> 01:00:21,680
but i don't really give them a path to

1691
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,880
do that so they

1692
01:00:26,710 --> 01:00:24,400
they caught me up short on that little

1693
01:00:28,069 --> 01:00:26,720
piece of logic and i started offering

1694
01:00:30,390 --> 01:00:28,079
these courses to help them do

1695
01:00:33,030 --> 01:00:30,400
that so if you go to the youtube find

1696
01:00:35,589 --> 01:00:33,040
the last tmi which i did last august

1697
01:00:36,069 --> 01:00:35,599
so you'll find it august 2020 and look

1698
01:00:37,990 --> 01:00:36,079
at that

1699
01:00:39,910 --> 01:00:38,000
and you will have the whole 2019 you

1700
01:00:43,349 --> 01:00:39,920
mean right unless you did it during

1701
01:00:43,990 --> 01:00:43,359
the coronavirus yeah 2019 it'll be 2019

1702
01:00:45,750 --> 01:00:44,000
right

1703
01:00:47,670 --> 01:00:45,760
so when you when you find that one

1704
01:00:49,510 --> 01:00:47,680
that's the whole course

1705
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:49,520
now all you have to do to make the

1706
01:00:53,510 --> 01:00:50,960
course complete

1707
01:00:56,230 --> 01:00:53,520
is go to mbt events and i think for 20

1708
01:00:56,630 --> 01:00:56,240
bucks or 25 bucks you can get a a set of

1709
01:00:59,750 --> 01:00:56,640
the

1710
01:01:02,789 --> 01:00:59,760
binaural beats that i used

1711
01:01:04,710 --> 01:01:02,799
during that course for those people

1712
01:01:06,470 --> 01:01:04,720
and basically the way the format's set

1713
01:01:08,870 --> 01:01:06,480
up is that i

1714
01:01:09,750 --> 01:01:08,880
talk to people and explain to them

1715
01:01:11,589 --> 01:01:09,760
what's happening

1716
01:01:13,190 --> 01:01:11,599
and what's going on are those binaural

1717
01:01:15,190 --> 01:01:13,200
beats related to hemisync or

1718
01:01:16,789 --> 01:01:15,200
is that completely independent no they

1719
01:01:17,430 --> 01:01:16,799
are related i'll tell you that story

1720
01:01:20,710 --> 01:01:17,440
next

1721
01:01:22,230 --> 01:01:20,720
okay bring that back up so so you get

1722
01:01:24,309 --> 01:01:22,240
those binaural beats and i think there's

1723
01:01:25,910 --> 01:01:24,319
like 13 of them and maybe one thrown in

1724
01:01:28,549 --> 01:01:25,920
to help people sleep if they

1725
01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:28,559
want but there's 13 there and you'll go

1726
01:01:32,309 --> 01:01:30,480
through a process i'll explain

1727
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:32,319
give you the understanding give you

1728
01:01:34,870 --> 01:01:33,920
pointers and things to do and things to

1729
01:01:37,430 --> 01:01:34,880
not do

1730
01:01:38,950 --> 01:01:37,440
and then you go take a binaural beat

1731
01:01:42,230 --> 01:01:38,960
session which is 50 minutes

1732
01:01:45,430 --> 01:01:42,240
and go experience go try to five zero

1733
01:01:47,589 --> 01:01:45,440
or five one five is it fifty

1734
01:01:49,589 --> 01:01:47,599
fifty minutes yeah five zero 50 minutes

1735
01:01:53,510 --> 01:01:49,599
a little less a little less than an hour

1736
01:01:55,190 --> 01:01:53,520
yeah and that's then you come back

1737
01:01:56,549 --> 01:01:55,200
and then you say well it didn't work

1738
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:56,559
nothing happened or

1739
01:02:00,470 --> 01:01:58,240
oh i got this or i got that what does

1740
01:02:02,150 --> 01:02:00,480
that mean and then there's questions and

1741
01:02:03,270 --> 01:02:02,160
the people who were there will ask me

1742
01:02:05,990 --> 01:02:03,280
questions

1743
01:02:08,069 --> 01:02:06,000
and they'll ask me things and i explain

1744
01:02:09,589 --> 01:02:08,079
to them i'm the coach basically because

1745
01:02:10,950 --> 01:02:09,599
i've been there and i experienced all

1746
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,960
these things so i know what they're

1747
01:02:13,589 --> 01:02:11,760
going through

1748
01:02:15,349 --> 01:02:13,599
so i coach them and i say well here's

1749
01:02:17,190 --> 01:02:15,359
what the problem was you need to

1750
01:02:19,029 --> 01:02:17,200
you know not do this or here's where

1751
01:02:21,990 --> 01:02:19,039
your intellect got into it

1752
01:02:23,270 --> 01:02:22,000
and i give them some help then it's time

1753
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:23,280
to go listen to another one

1754
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,119
so they go back out and do it again and

1755
01:02:30,870 --> 01:02:27,599
we keep doing that for

1756
01:02:32,630 --> 01:02:30,880
four days five days how many times in

1757
01:02:35,430 --> 01:02:32,640
one day

1758
01:02:36,150 --> 01:02:35,440
four times in a day interesting so

1759
01:02:38,789 --> 01:02:36,160
there's gonna be

1760
01:02:40,630 --> 01:02:38,799
i think it's well some was four when i

1761
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:40,640
was a tmi i think it was four times in a

1762
01:02:45,990 --> 01:02:43,280
day other places sometimes it's three

1763
01:02:48,069 --> 01:02:46,000
it depends on the course and how many

1764
01:02:52,150 --> 01:02:48,079
days it is and so on

1765
01:02:55,750 --> 01:02:54,950
that is the course so you can for 25

1766
01:02:58,309 --> 01:02:55,760
bucks

1767
01:03:00,549 --> 01:02:58,319
you can get a complete course that costs

1768
01:03:01,990 --> 01:03:00,559
2500 bucks

1769
01:03:04,309 --> 01:03:02,000
and the only thing you're missing is the

1770
01:03:06,789 --> 01:03:04,319
ability to ask your own questions

1771
01:03:08,789 --> 01:03:06,799
but then keith and donna who run my

1772
01:03:11,750 --> 01:03:08,799
events they just started

1773
01:03:12,390 --> 01:03:11,760
with a what they called an add-on course

1774
01:03:15,990 --> 01:03:12,400
which means

1775
01:03:18,870 --> 01:03:16,000
people like you could go spend the 25

1776
01:03:19,670 --> 01:03:18,880
go get that that video actually do the

1777
01:03:22,870 --> 01:03:19,680
course

1778
01:03:25,670 --> 01:03:22,880
and then we'll get together for

1779
01:03:27,589 --> 01:03:25,680
what uh six hours a day for three or

1780
01:03:30,390 --> 01:03:27,599
four days in a row and then you get to

1781
01:03:32,549 --> 01:03:30,400
ask your questions

1782
01:03:34,390 --> 01:03:32,559
and we do a little bit of we do a little

1783
01:03:35,990 --> 01:03:34,400
bit i think i did healing and remote

1784
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:36,000
viewing with the people

1785
01:03:39,670 --> 01:03:38,240
while we were there but basically this

1786
01:03:40,950 --> 01:03:39,680
is the chance you've already done the

1787
01:03:43,990 --> 01:03:40,960
work you've done the course

1788
01:03:47,430 --> 01:03:44,000
this is the chance to come actually

1789
01:03:50,150 --> 01:03:47,440
ask your questions if you have them so

1790
01:03:51,190 --> 01:03:50,160
you know for 25 bucks you can get a 2500

1791
01:03:53,750 --> 01:03:51,200
course

1792
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:53,760
just uh it's not quite as good as being

1793
01:03:59,589 --> 01:03:57,280
there but it's probably a 95

1794
01:04:00,710 --> 01:03:59,599
of it it's pretty close to being there

1795
01:04:02,390 --> 01:04:00,720
i'll leave the link

1796
01:04:03,910 --> 01:04:02,400
i'll display it right now on screen as

1797
01:04:05,589 --> 01:04:03,920
well as put it in the description

1798
01:04:08,230 --> 01:04:05,599
so people can go check it out themselves

1799
01:04:09,430 --> 01:04:08,240
too lastly oh you're mentioning hemisync

1800
01:04:10,549 --> 01:04:09,440
and the relationship between that and

1801
01:04:14,230 --> 01:04:10,559
binaural beats

1802
01:04:16,549 --> 01:04:14,240
okay let hemisink dennis and i um

1803
01:04:18,470 --> 01:04:16,559
came up with the ca ran into well

1804
01:04:21,670 --> 01:04:18,480
actually dennis saul in a scientific

1805
01:04:24,630 --> 01:04:21,680
american back in 1960 something

1806
01:04:26,390 --> 01:04:24,640
it was uh published in scientific

1807
01:04:27,589 --> 01:04:26,400
american that binaural beats and trained

1808
01:04:29,910 --> 01:04:27,599
brain waves

1809
01:04:31,270 --> 01:04:29,920
so if you have bio a binaural b i guess

1810
01:04:32,309 --> 01:04:31,280
i should tell you listeners if you have

1811
01:04:36,870 --> 01:04:32,319
a pure tone

1812
01:04:38,870 --> 01:04:36,880
the tones are slightly different let's

1813
01:04:40,870 --> 01:04:38,880
say four hertz different

1814
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:40,880
then if you do those in air you'll get a

1815
01:04:43,589 --> 01:04:42,400
four hertz speed you know here's the

1816
01:04:44,710 --> 01:04:43,599
speaker and here's a speaker and they're

1817
01:04:47,029 --> 01:04:44,720
looking at each other

1818
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:47,039
you'll get a four hertz speed so a four

1819
01:04:55,190 --> 01:04:53,670
one two three four one two three four so

1820
01:04:57,990 --> 01:04:55,200
that's what would happen now you put it

1821
01:04:59,270 --> 01:04:58,000
with headphones you stick it in your ear

1822
01:05:01,349 --> 01:04:59,280
particularly these kind of headphones

1823
01:05:02,470 --> 01:05:01,359
little earbuds are good and you stick it

1824
01:05:05,029 --> 01:05:02,480
in your ear

1825
01:05:06,150 --> 01:05:05,039
now pure tone here pure tone here four

1826
01:05:08,390 --> 01:05:06,160
hertz difference

1827
01:05:10,870 --> 01:05:08,400
and the signals get through the audio

1828
01:05:12,230 --> 01:05:10,880
nerves down to the corpus callosum which

1829
01:05:13,430 --> 01:05:12,240
is the membrane between the two

1830
01:05:16,230 --> 01:05:13,440
hemispheres

1831
01:05:17,589 --> 01:05:16,240
and at that point you actually generate

1832
01:05:20,789 --> 01:05:17,599
a beat frequency

1833
01:05:23,670 --> 01:05:20,799
inside your brain as opposed to

1834
01:05:24,710 --> 01:05:23,680
inside the air the medium for the beat

1835
01:05:27,029 --> 01:05:24,720
frequency is

1836
01:05:27,829 --> 01:05:27,039
your brain it's oscillating neurons or

1837
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:27,839
what

1838
01:05:33,349 --> 01:05:31,599
it's well that is not

1839
01:05:34,710 --> 01:05:33,359
we don't know that for sure but we know

1840
01:05:37,910 --> 01:05:34,720
that if you put

1841
01:05:39,910 --> 01:05:37,920
uh eeg on that measures brain waves

1842
01:05:41,910 --> 01:05:39,920
and if that's four hertz your brain wave

1843
01:05:42,789 --> 01:05:41,920
energy will tend to move to the four

1844
01:05:44,630 --> 01:05:42,799
hertz

1845
01:05:47,349 --> 01:05:44,640
that's what they mean by brainwave

1846
01:05:49,029 --> 01:05:47,359
entrainment now to say that whether it's

1847
01:05:51,029 --> 01:05:49,039
you know shaking neurons or something

1848
01:05:52,950 --> 01:05:51,039
that's

1849
01:05:54,630 --> 01:05:52,960
physiologists who want to know the

1850
01:05:55,829 --> 01:05:54,640
correlation between what's happening in

1851
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:55,839
the brain and what

1852
01:05:59,829 --> 01:05:58,559
what comes out of an eeg i wouldn't

1853
01:06:02,950 --> 01:05:59,839
speak to that

1854
01:06:04,069 --> 01:06:02,960
but in any case it entrains brain waves

1855
01:06:07,190 --> 01:06:04,079
in the sense that

1856
01:06:08,309 --> 01:06:07,200
your brain wave is like energy on the

1857
01:06:12,150 --> 01:06:08,319
vertical axis

1858
01:06:13,910 --> 01:06:12,160
and frequency on the horizontal axis

1859
01:06:15,430 --> 01:06:13,920
so you generally have different kinds of

1860
01:06:17,990 --> 01:06:15,440
frequencies popping off

1861
01:06:19,270 --> 01:06:18,000
up and down all over the place okay now

1862
01:06:24,069 --> 01:06:19,280
you meditate

1863
01:06:25,910 --> 01:06:24,079
under the the area under the curve

1864
01:06:27,990 --> 01:06:25,920
of all these things going up and down

1865
01:06:31,589 --> 01:06:28,000
the energy there

1866
01:06:34,710 --> 01:06:31,599
it uh it tends to move

1867
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:34,720
toward the alpha state and the theta

1868
01:06:38,630 --> 01:06:35,680
state

1869
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:38,640
okay alpha brainwave so they put these

1870
01:06:41,829 --> 01:06:39,280
things on

1871
01:06:43,589 --> 01:06:41,839
on monks who really good at meditating

1872
01:06:43,990 --> 01:06:43,599
just for people watching i use this

1873
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:44,000
which

1874
01:06:50,789 --> 01:06:48,000
and then it does have a theta setting

1875
01:06:52,950 --> 01:06:50,799
yeah okay so that's so that's anyway

1876
01:06:55,109 --> 01:06:52,960
that's the idea of a binaural beat

1877
01:06:56,549 --> 01:06:55,119
and it doesn't drain brain waves and

1878
01:06:57,190 --> 01:06:56,559
they know that meditators when they

1879
01:06:59,829 --> 01:06:57,200
meditate

1880
01:07:01,109 --> 01:06:59,839
they slide the energy slides from all

1881
01:07:04,390 --> 01:07:01,119
over the place to

1882
01:07:07,029 --> 01:07:04,400
down to the theta low alpha theta region

1883
01:07:07,990 --> 01:07:07,039
okay so that's if you want something to

1884
01:07:10,549 --> 01:07:08,000
help you

1885
01:07:12,549 --> 01:07:10,559
meditate then you take a binaural beat

1886
01:07:13,510 --> 01:07:12,559
of about four hertz because four hertz

1887
01:07:15,349 --> 01:07:13,520
is right there in

1888
01:07:17,109 --> 01:07:15,359
in the middle of theta region if you

1889
01:07:18,710 --> 01:07:17,119
just want to relax then you

1890
01:07:20,230 --> 01:07:18,720
have a her you know a difference

1891
01:07:22,470 --> 01:07:20,240
frequency of say uh

1892
01:07:24,789 --> 01:07:22,480
eight or ten hertz which is low alpha

1893
01:07:27,270 --> 01:07:24,799
and now you just now you just mel out

1894
01:07:28,950 --> 01:07:27,280
you see so and if you want to wake up

1895
01:07:32,309 --> 01:07:28,960
then you send it up to

1896
01:07:33,510 --> 01:07:32,319
you know 20 hertz or 40 hertz or

1897
01:07:36,069 --> 01:07:33,520
something else and now you're

1898
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:36,079
bright-eyed and bushy-tailed so

1899
01:07:39,430 --> 01:07:37,920
it's a brainwave entrainment now you

1900
01:07:40,390 --> 01:07:39,440
have to cooperate with it it's not that

1901
01:07:43,430 --> 01:07:40,400
it forces you

1902
01:07:45,270 --> 01:07:43,440
to do something it just encourages you

1903
01:07:48,230 --> 01:07:45,280
toward a

1904
01:07:48,950 --> 01:07:48,240
an area you if you don't cooperate with

1905
01:07:51,190 --> 01:07:48,960
it it doesn't

1906
01:07:53,750 --> 01:07:51,200
uh it isn't going to affect you so it's

1907
01:07:55,670 --> 01:07:53,760
not not something scary that's

1908
01:07:57,190 --> 01:07:55,680
that's taking over your mind so it's an

1909
01:07:58,710 --> 01:07:57,200
ancilla it helps you

1910
01:08:00,309 --> 01:07:58,720
yeah it just helps you so if you're not

1911
01:08:02,549 --> 01:08:00,319
a good meditator yet

1912
01:08:04,950 --> 01:08:02,559
then it's a it's a tool that will help

1913
01:08:08,789 --> 01:08:06,710
meditate and it'll help you keep that

1914
01:08:11,910 --> 01:08:08,799
meditation state

1915
01:08:14,789 --> 01:08:11,920
but like all like all such uh

1916
01:08:16,390 --> 01:08:14,799
crutches you need to know when to take

1917
01:08:18,149 --> 01:08:16,400
them off

1918
01:08:19,829 --> 01:08:18,159
you know you if you put those little

1919
01:08:21,189 --> 01:08:19,839
little training wheels on your bicycle

1920
01:08:22,070 --> 01:08:21,199
when you're five years old and learn to

1921
01:08:23,110 --> 01:08:22,080
ride a bike

1922
01:08:25,669 --> 01:08:23,120
well they'll help you because they'll

1923
01:08:28,870 --> 01:08:25,679
keep you from falling over and

1924
01:08:29,910 --> 01:08:28,880
and getting hurt so but

1925
01:08:31,189 --> 01:08:29,920
if you're ever going to be good at

1926
01:08:32,709 --> 01:08:31,199
riding a bike you got to take those

1927
01:08:35,269 --> 01:08:32,719
little wheels off because they prevent

1928
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:35,279
you from leaning into a turn i see

1929
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,440
so it's the same with this you can use

1930
01:08:41,430 --> 01:08:39,120
the binaural beats

1931
01:08:42,309 --> 01:08:41,440
as much as you need them to maintain

1932
01:08:46,070 --> 01:08:42,319
that

1933
01:08:48,390 --> 01:08:46,080
region

1934
01:08:49,269 --> 01:08:48,400
but eventually you need to be able to do

1935
01:08:52,709 --> 01:08:49,279
it on your own

1936
01:08:54,149 --> 01:08:52,719
and take the headphones off so it's not

1937
01:08:56,309 --> 01:08:54,159
something to do forever but it's

1938
01:08:58,070 --> 01:08:56,319
something to do as long as you

1939
01:08:59,590 --> 01:08:58,080
you know as long as you need that help

1940
01:09:01,829 --> 01:08:59,600
then you should use it

1941
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,839
so it's a good tool so anyway dennis

1942
01:09:06,309 --> 01:09:03,600
read the article we were working

1943
01:09:07,669 --> 01:09:06,319
at the lab and anything that a trained

1944
01:09:08,870 --> 01:09:07,679
brain waves was interesting to us

1945
01:09:10,630 --> 01:09:08,880
because we were trying to figure out how

1946
01:09:12,789 --> 01:09:10,640
to reproduce bob states

1947
01:09:14,470 --> 01:09:12,799
you know make them happen in a naive

1948
01:09:16,950 --> 01:09:14,480
subject so to speak

1949
01:09:19,189 --> 01:09:16,960
so we went right out to the lab and

1950
01:09:21,829 --> 01:09:19,199
started playing with binaural beats

1951
01:09:22,709 --> 01:09:21,839
and found out they were very effective

1952
01:09:25,749 --> 01:09:22,719
in producing

1953
01:09:26,550 --> 01:09:25,759
uh you know the states that are very

1954
01:09:28,229 --> 01:09:26,560
effective for

1955
01:09:30,870 --> 01:09:28,239
going out of body which is the theta

1956
01:09:31,829 --> 01:09:30,880
state which is just before you get to

1957
01:09:34,309 --> 01:09:31,839
delta which is

1958
01:09:37,110 --> 01:09:34,319
like you know you lose consciousness so

1959
01:09:40,229 --> 01:09:37,120
anyway we found that out and um

1960
01:09:41,590 --> 01:09:40,239
bob took that binaural beat he was gone

1961
01:09:43,349 --> 01:09:41,600
at the time and then some

1962
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:43,359
weeks later he came back we showed him

1963
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,560
what we'd done and told him well it

1964
01:09:46,950 --> 01:09:45,839
works better than anything we've tried

1965
01:09:49,829 --> 01:09:46,960
so far

1966
01:09:50,550 --> 01:09:49,839
and he liked it as well he experimented

1967
01:09:52,550 --> 01:09:50,560
with it

1968
01:09:53,749 --> 01:09:52,560
and then he took some binaural beats and

1969
01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:53,759
added them

1970
01:09:58,550 --> 01:09:56,960
to this little uh kind of surfy sound he

1971
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:58,560
had that had kind of a four hertz

1972
01:10:02,310 --> 01:09:59,760
modulation

1973
01:10:04,229 --> 01:10:02,320
but it wasn't binaural and it was

1974
01:10:05,430 --> 01:10:04,239
relaxing but it didn't have the power of

1975
01:10:10,390 --> 01:10:05,440
the binaural beat

1976
01:10:14,709 --> 01:10:10,400
named it hemisink and got a patent on it

1977
01:10:17,350 --> 01:10:14,719
so that's so that's tmi's patented

1978
01:10:19,510 --> 01:10:17,360
you know um sound that they use to

1979
01:10:22,630 --> 01:10:19,520
encourage people to be in a good

1980
01:10:23,270 --> 01:10:22,640
and stay in a good meditation state it's

1981
01:10:25,990 --> 01:10:23,280
called

1982
01:10:27,030 --> 01:10:26,000
you know it's that so you can buy things

1983
01:10:34,229 --> 01:10:27,040
from

1984
01:10:36,470 --> 01:10:34,239
you know that in it hemisync and

1985
01:10:38,870 --> 01:10:36,480
the reason he called it hemisync is they

1986
01:10:40,790 --> 01:10:38,880
had a

1987
01:10:42,709 --> 01:10:40,800
a brain scan you know sort of like a cat

1988
01:10:44,550 --> 01:10:42,719
scan thing things that look at your

1989
01:10:46,310 --> 01:10:44,560
your brains and the energy and areas

1990
01:10:48,950 --> 01:10:46,320
that light up and don't light up

1991
01:10:49,430 --> 01:10:48,960
and when you listen to the sound or if

1992
01:10:51,669 --> 01:10:49,440
you can

1993
01:10:53,669 --> 01:10:51,679
meditate without it either way you'll

1994
01:10:55,910 --> 01:10:53,679
find that the two hemispheres which are

1995
01:10:56,790 --> 01:10:55,920
scattered all over yeah start to get

1996
01:10:58,630 --> 01:10:56,800
caught

1997
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,640
they start to get symmetric they start

1998
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:00,159
to look the same

1999
01:11:06,470 --> 01:11:03,600
and so that's where the hemisink came

2000
01:11:08,390 --> 01:11:06,480
from he used the

2001
01:11:09,510 --> 01:11:08,400
the hemisphere sinking sinking the

2002
01:11:11,430 --> 01:11:09,520
hemispheres is that

2003
01:11:13,669 --> 01:11:11,440
is the hemi saint for the people

2004
01:11:16,149 --> 01:11:13,679
watching i'm sure they're thinking okay

2005
01:11:17,110 --> 01:11:16,159
earlier you said that you can access

2006
01:11:18,630 --> 01:11:17,120
npmr

2007
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,640
fairly easily now because you've

2008
01:11:22,310 --> 01:11:20,560
practiced it and npmr

2009
01:11:23,669 --> 01:11:22,320
affords you greater access to

2010
01:11:25,990 --> 01:11:23,679
information

2011
01:11:27,669 --> 01:11:26,000
so is there something that you can do

2012
01:11:28,870 --> 01:11:27,679
please tell me if this is uncouth but is

2013
01:11:30,709 --> 01:11:28,880
there something that you can do

2014
01:11:32,550 --> 01:11:30,719
even if it takes two minutes or whatever

2015
01:11:33,750 --> 01:11:32,560
in order to give some evidence for

2016
01:11:36,070 --> 01:11:33,760
someone who's watching

2017
01:11:37,270 --> 01:11:36,080
that you're accessing a place where

2018
01:11:38,470 --> 01:11:37,280
there's information that you wouldn't

2019
01:11:41,750 --> 01:11:38,480
have access to otherwise

2020
01:11:42,870 --> 01:11:41,760
so for example to not to make this a

2021
01:11:46,070 --> 01:11:42,880
carnival trick at all

2022
01:11:49,350 --> 01:11:46,080
but to say my birthday or my birth

2023
01:11:51,590 --> 01:11:49,360
month or or whatever it could be yeah

2024
01:11:53,750 --> 01:11:51,600
it's it's it's not uncouth but it

2025
01:11:55,669 --> 01:11:53,760
doesn't it's not really effective

2026
01:11:57,189 --> 01:11:55,679
and it doesn't work i've been there and

2027
01:12:00,630 --> 01:11:57,199
done that and

2028
01:12:03,430 --> 01:12:00,640
it doesn't work so much and here's why

2029
01:12:05,510 --> 01:12:03,440
it's all intellectual it doesn't help

2030
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:05,520
anybody if you want to see

2031
01:12:08,790 --> 01:12:07,840
evidence of people being able to do

2032
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,800
these things

2033
01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,480
i mean real stuff that's written out you

2034
01:12:13,750 --> 01:12:12,159
know not just some guy

2035
01:12:15,669 --> 01:12:13,760
because if you and i do something you

2036
01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:15,679
know and i do some kind of thing with

2037
01:12:18,070 --> 01:12:16,800
you and whatever

2038
01:12:19,910 --> 01:12:18,080
well you and i could just be

2039
01:12:22,470 --> 01:12:19,920
collaborating on that you know

2040
01:12:23,750 --> 01:12:22,480
we could you and i are what a

2041
01:12:26,790 --> 01:12:23,760
co-conspirator

2042
01:12:30,950 --> 01:12:26,800
it doesn't really prove anything

2043
01:12:33,189 --> 01:12:30,960
to people so they have to experience it

2044
01:12:35,830 --> 01:12:33,199
themselves or it's not their truth

2045
01:12:37,030 --> 01:12:35,840
reading about it listening to it seeing

2046
01:12:40,070 --> 01:12:37,040
people do it

2047
01:12:41,350 --> 01:12:40,080
unless it's done with them unless

2048
01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:41,360
they're part of it

2049
01:12:44,390 --> 01:12:43,520
then it just doesn't help it doesn't

2050
01:12:46,470 --> 01:12:44,400
help them grow

2051
01:12:48,070 --> 01:12:46,480
at all it may get a gee whiz out of them

2052
01:12:49,830 --> 01:12:48,080
but it doesn't really help

2053
01:12:51,590 --> 01:12:49,840
so what they will what they can do if

2054
01:12:52,229 --> 01:12:51,600
they really are serious about wanting

2055
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:52,239
evidence

2056
01:12:55,350 --> 01:12:54,320
to see it yeah then where they what they

2057
01:12:58,950 --> 01:12:55,360
should do

2058
01:13:00,870 --> 01:12:58,960
is go to a remote viewing

2059
01:13:02,070 --> 01:13:00,880
site now there's lots of remote viewing

2060
01:13:03,750 --> 01:13:02,080
sites but go to ones where they're

2061
01:13:04,229 --> 01:13:03,760
really serious about it where they study

2062
01:13:06,470 --> 01:13:04,239
it

2063
01:13:07,430 --> 01:13:06,480
where they take remote viewing as a as a

2064
01:13:09,590 --> 01:13:07,440
science

2065
01:13:10,950 --> 01:13:09,600
they're working on it get involved with

2066
01:13:13,510 --> 01:13:10,960
them in other words

2067
01:13:14,390 --> 01:13:13,520
are there any that you recommend there's

2068
01:13:16,630 --> 01:13:14,400
dozens of them

2069
01:13:19,110 --> 01:13:16,640
there's lots of them you can find groups

2070
01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:19,120
i mean you no there hasn't heard of dean

2071
01:13:22,070 --> 01:13:20,080
raiden

2072
01:13:23,750 --> 01:13:22,080
yeah i've heard of dean rayden dean

2073
01:13:25,590 --> 01:13:23,760
rayden does real experiments

2074
01:13:27,030 --> 01:13:25,600
look at dean raden's work you read his

2075
01:13:29,350 --> 01:13:27,040
book he's a good

2076
01:13:31,590 --> 01:13:29,360
he's a good guy he does real experiments

2077
01:13:33,910 --> 01:13:31,600
and he's very serious about his

2078
01:13:35,590 --> 01:13:33,920
his protocols and his science so he's

2079
01:13:37,110 --> 01:13:35,600
written a bunch of books read his books

2080
01:13:38,790 --> 01:13:37,120
and that would give you

2081
01:13:40,229 --> 01:13:38,800
evidence but again people read the books

2082
01:13:41,510 --> 01:13:40,239
and they say yeah well he could just be

2083
01:13:43,270 --> 01:13:41,520
making all this up

2084
01:13:44,550 --> 01:13:43,280
and you'll go to a remote viewing site

2085
01:13:46,470 --> 01:13:44,560
and you could say yeah but all these

2086
01:13:49,830 --> 01:13:46,480
people maybe they're just making it up

2087
01:13:51,510 --> 01:13:49,840
so it it won't help unless you find a

2088
01:13:53,350 --> 01:13:51,520
good remote viewing site because you can

2089
01:13:54,149 --> 01:13:53,360
call deraden he probably won't let you

2090
01:13:56,709 --> 01:13:54,159
just

2091
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:56,719
come in his lab you know that would be

2092
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:58,320
probably it's not going to do that for

2093
01:14:02,550 --> 01:13:59,520
very many people

2094
01:14:04,709 --> 01:14:02,560
but anyway so the reason it won't work

2095
01:14:07,030 --> 01:14:04,719
is because people won't believe it

2096
01:14:08,550 --> 01:14:07,040
no the reason it's not worth doing is

2097
01:14:09,750 --> 01:14:08,560
that people won't believe it it's just

2098
01:14:13,030 --> 01:14:09,760
not a good idea

2099
01:14:14,229 --> 01:14:13,040
for one reason and two like i say i try

2100
01:14:17,510 --> 01:14:14,239
to keep low profile

2101
01:14:19,910 --> 01:14:17,520
on the on the weird side of things so

2102
01:14:21,510 --> 01:14:19,920
the more i do things like that that is

2103
01:14:23,750 --> 01:14:21,520
what i get remembered for

2104
01:14:25,510 --> 01:14:23,760
i can talk about the nature of reality

2105
01:14:26,870 --> 01:14:25,520
and science and quantum mechanics for a

2106
01:14:30,950 --> 01:14:26,880
hundred hours

2107
01:14:34,470 --> 01:14:30,960
and i do one paranormal stunt and

2108
01:14:36,310 --> 01:14:34,480
that is how i know that just puts me in

2109
01:14:38,709 --> 01:14:36,320
the light that i don't want to be in

2110
01:14:39,590 --> 01:14:38,719
i'm still a serious scientist and i need

2111
01:14:41,830 --> 01:14:39,600
to get

2112
01:14:42,709 --> 01:14:41,840
serious attention in the scientific

2113
01:14:46,630 --> 01:14:42,719
world

2114
01:14:47,510 --> 01:14:46,640
so i don't want to emphasize that part

2115
01:14:50,630 --> 01:14:47,520
of what i do

2116
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:50,640
but go to a remote viewing site make

2117
01:14:54,470 --> 01:14:53,679
look at ones get the sense that they're

2118
01:14:57,430 --> 01:14:54,480
really

2119
01:14:58,550 --> 01:14:57,440
real people doing things join them visit

2120
01:15:01,430 --> 01:14:58,560
the site spend

2121
01:15:01,750 --> 01:15:01,440
spend a week spend a month or two you

2122
01:15:03,350 --> 01:15:01,760
know

2123
01:15:05,030 --> 01:15:03,360
and what following they're following

2124
01:15:05,350 --> 01:15:05,040
their sessions filing their things go to

2125
01:15:07,350 --> 01:15:05,360
a

2126
01:15:08,390 --> 01:15:07,360
course there's hundreds of courses on

2127
01:15:11,350 --> 01:15:08,400
remote viewing

2128
01:15:12,790 --> 01:15:11,360
you have to get involved yourself if you

2129
01:15:16,070 --> 01:15:12,800
don't get involved yourself

2130
01:15:17,270 --> 01:15:16,080
it's not going to affect you one bit

2131
01:15:19,270 --> 01:15:17,280
the reason i asked for some

2132
01:15:20,950 --> 01:15:19,280
recommendations is because clearly there

2133
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:20,960
are some people who are scammers

2134
01:15:23,990 --> 01:15:22,159
and then clearly there are people who

2135
01:15:25,030 --> 01:15:24,000
well not clearly but the

2136
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,040
claim is that there are people who are

2137
01:15:29,750 --> 01:15:27,040
not so then

2138
01:15:30,630 --> 01:15:29,760
how does one disentangle there's not

2139
01:15:32,149 --> 01:15:30,640
that many

2140
01:15:34,550 --> 01:15:32,159
scammers you're not going to find

2141
01:15:35,750 --> 01:15:34,560
scammers putting up a remote viewing

2142
01:15:37,830 --> 01:15:35,760
site where a bunch of people are

2143
01:15:40,870 --> 01:15:37,840
pretending to remote view

2144
01:15:42,950 --> 01:15:40,880
that i think would be a probably a very

2145
01:15:43,590 --> 01:15:42,960
low probability if you have a bunch of

2146
01:15:45,830 --> 01:15:43,600
people

2147
01:15:46,870 --> 01:15:45,840
spend some time interact with them send

2148
01:15:49,430 --> 01:15:46,880
them emails

2149
01:15:51,270 --> 01:15:49,440
do they seem like they're wild and crazy

2150
01:15:54,470 --> 01:15:51,280
and just trying to convince you and

2151
01:15:55,669 --> 01:15:54,480
of something or they're just doing

2152
01:15:57,350 --> 01:15:55,679
science and you can

2153
01:15:59,510 --> 01:15:57,360
you can watch if you like you know that

2154
01:16:00,149 --> 01:15:59,520
sort of thing you have to come to that

2155
01:16:02,790 --> 01:16:00,159
assessment

2156
01:16:03,830 --> 01:16:02,800
yourself and yes that takes a little

2157
01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:03,840
time

2158
01:16:08,630 --> 01:16:06,159
and if i were to give you a site i don't

2159
01:16:11,110 --> 01:16:08,640
really have any but if i gave you one

2160
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:11,120
then that's not all that helpful because

2161
01:16:14,790 --> 01:16:12,880
i'm a weird guy giving you some weird

2162
01:16:16,229 --> 01:16:14,800
sight of course i'd give you some scam

2163
01:16:18,229 --> 01:16:16,239
site where they would convince you of

2164
01:16:20,950 --> 01:16:18,239
what i wanted you convinced of

2165
01:16:22,790 --> 01:16:20,960
see it just that doesn't work you have

2166
01:16:24,470 --> 01:16:22,800
to go do the work yourself you have to

2167
01:16:25,350 --> 01:16:24,480
go to the site you have to talk to the

2168
01:16:28,550 --> 01:16:25,360
people

2169
01:16:30,870 --> 01:16:28,560
you have to get some sense of how

2170
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:30,880
sound they are how serious they are

2171
01:16:34,790 --> 01:16:33,040
about remote viewing and about

2172
01:16:36,550 --> 01:16:34,800
you know the judging the remote views

2173
01:16:37,350 --> 01:16:36,560
and look at their targets they'll show

2174
01:16:38,550 --> 01:16:37,360
you well here

2175
01:16:40,390 --> 01:16:38,560
here were the targets and here's what

2176
01:16:42,470 --> 01:16:40,400
the remote viewers got

2177
01:16:44,550 --> 01:16:42,480
and you'll see that some of them are

2178
01:16:47,750 --> 01:16:44,560
sketchy and some of them are

2179
01:16:49,990 --> 01:16:47,760
surprising or amazing well

2180
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:50,000
logic says that if a person can just one

2181
01:16:54,070 --> 01:16:51,360
person can do it once

2182
01:16:56,070 --> 01:16:54,080
then it's possible after that it's only

2183
01:17:00,070 --> 01:16:56,080
a matter of

2184
01:17:03,750 --> 01:17:00,080
learning you know growing it yeah i mean

2185
01:17:06,950 --> 01:17:03,760
the possibility of it is easy to come by

2186
01:17:09,270 --> 01:17:06,960
you just have to take some time and do

2187
01:17:11,510 --> 01:17:09,280
it for yourself so it's your search

2188
01:17:13,430 --> 01:17:11,520
you talk to the people they've helped

2189
01:17:15,750 --> 01:17:13,440
you maybe you went to the course

2190
01:17:17,030 --> 01:17:15,760
and you take a course from them if they

2191
01:17:20,390 --> 01:17:17,040
teach courses

2192
01:17:22,149 --> 01:17:20,400
and eventually you'll be doing it but if

2193
01:17:24,229 --> 01:17:22,159
all you do is meditate

2194
01:17:26,870 --> 01:17:24,239
find out become a turtle every once in a

2195
01:17:28,630 --> 01:17:26,880
while and in that turtle

2196
01:17:30,390 --> 01:17:28,640
come up with some things you'd like to

2197
01:17:31,110 --> 01:17:30,400
see someplace and check and see if you

2198
01:17:33,669 --> 01:17:31,120
see them

2199
01:17:34,149 --> 01:17:33,679
and if you can just keep your if you can

2200
01:17:39,270 --> 01:17:34,159
just

2201
01:17:41,189 --> 01:17:39,280
i'm not going to judge it i'm not going

2202
01:17:42,790 --> 01:17:41,199
to say oh is this right what does that

2203
01:17:44,709 --> 01:17:42,800
mean you know i'm not going to analyze

2204
01:17:45,669 --> 01:17:44,719
it i'm just going to let the experience

2205
01:17:49,510 --> 01:17:45,679
come

2206
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:49,520
if you can do that then you'll find

2207
01:17:53,189 --> 01:17:51,440
that you will be amazed at the

2208
01:17:55,830 --> 01:17:53,199
information you will pick up

2209
01:17:56,550 --> 01:17:55,840
and you'll get better at it over time

2210
01:17:58,709 --> 01:17:56,560
and then

2211
01:17:59,750 --> 01:17:58,719
you won't see it you won't have that

2212
01:18:02,310 --> 01:17:59,760
question is it real

2213
01:18:04,470 --> 01:18:02,320
because you'll know because you did it

2214
01:18:07,270 --> 01:18:04,480
and that's the only way to know for sure

2215
01:18:08,310 --> 01:18:07,280
not your experience not your truth so

2216
01:18:10,870 --> 01:18:08,320
rather than

2217
01:18:13,030 --> 01:18:10,880
you know put on a show that doesn't

2218
01:18:16,310 --> 01:18:13,040
really help anybody grow up

2219
01:18:18,070 --> 01:18:16,320
i encourage people to go find out go do

2220
01:18:21,270 --> 01:18:18,080
it yourself and remote viewing

2221
01:18:23,990 --> 01:18:21,280
is easy healing somebody with your mind

2222
01:18:26,630 --> 01:18:24,000
is even easier than remote viewing

2223
01:18:27,990 --> 01:18:26,640
because there's more uncertainty

2224
01:18:29,910 --> 01:18:28,000
involved

2225
01:18:32,149 --> 01:18:29,920
your ability to do these things is tied

2226
01:18:34,149 --> 01:18:32,159
directly to the uncertainty surrounding

2227
01:18:37,669 --> 01:18:34,159
what it is that you're doing

2228
01:18:40,149 --> 01:18:37,679
and we could explain all of that too but

2229
01:18:41,270 --> 01:18:40,159
in in any case there's a connection but

2230
01:18:43,990 --> 01:18:41,280
because

2231
01:18:46,070 --> 01:18:44,000
what what bodies are hugely complex

2232
01:18:48,070 --> 01:18:46,080
things and the things that they can do

2233
01:18:49,510 --> 01:18:48,080
leaves always a lot of uncertainty you

2234
01:18:51,430 --> 01:18:49,520
know people do

2235
01:18:52,830 --> 01:18:51,440
have stage four cancer given three

2236
01:18:55,830 --> 01:18:52,840
months to live

2237
01:18:57,910 --> 01:18:55,840
and get rid of it it goes away

2238
01:18:59,990 --> 01:18:57,920
that doesn't happen a lot but it does

2239
01:19:03,590 --> 01:19:00,000
happen it's possible

2240
01:19:06,709 --> 01:19:03,600
so that's uncertainty

2241
01:19:09,830 --> 01:19:06,719
you see that helps you be able to work

2242
01:19:11,830 --> 01:19:09,840
in the in the health area so

2243
01:19:14,709 --> 01:19:11,840
probably healing with your mind is one

2244
01:19:16,870 --> 01:19:14,719
of the simplest things anybody can do

2245
01:19:18,550 --> 01:19:16,880
but now instead of remote viewing you

2246
01:19:20,870 --> 01:19:18,560
either get it right or get it wrong

2247
01:19:22,470 --> 01:19:20,880
see what you can go you can go to a site

2248
01:19:24,470 --> 01:19:22,480
and practice remote viewing there's lots

2249
01:19:25,590 --> 01:19:24,480
of sites you google remote viewing

2250
01:19:27,750 --> 01:19:25,600
targets

2251
01:19:29,669 --> 01:19:27,760
and basically you'll go to that site and

2252
01:19:32,229 --> 01:19:29,679
the site will give you a number

2253
01:19:33,669 --> 01:19:32,239
and that number is associated with

2254
01:19:34,830 --> 01:19:33,679
target so let's say there's a hundred

2255
01:19:37,110 --> 01:19:34,840
thousand

2256
01:19:38,950 --> 01:19:37,120
pictures and you get a number that's

2257
01:19:41,110 --> 01:19:38,960
associated with one of those pictures

2258
01:19:42,550 --> 01:19:41,120
and your job is to look at that number

2259
01:19:44,310 --> 01:19:42,560
and remote view the picture that's

2260
01:19:46,310 --> 01:19:44,320
associated with it

2261
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:46,320
remote viewing is just getting data out

2262
01:19:49,110 --> 01:19:47,360
of a database

2263
01:19:50,709 --> 01:19:49,120
have you just for yourself not for

2264
01:19:52,149 --> 01:19:50,719
anyone else but have you done that

2265
01:19:53,750 --> 01:19:52,159
or you've gone to a website and then

2266
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:53,760
consistently been able to see the

2267
01:19:57,669 --> 01:19:55,760
pictures associated with the numbers

2268
01:19:59,590 --> 01:19:57,679
yeah i've been able to do that where i

2269
01:20:01,110 --> 01:19:59,600
would consistently do that now if i

2270
01:20:03,270 --> 01:20:01,120
practiced at it a lot

2271
01:20:04,470 --> 01:20:03,280
i get better at it because i don't do

2272
01:20:07,189 --> 01:20:04,480
those things

2273
01:20:09,189 --> 01:20:07,199
much i don't find a lot of need to do

2274
01:20:11,430 --> 01:20:09,199
those those are things i did

2275
01:20:13,350 --> 01:20:11,440
what 30 years ago when i was learning

2276
01:20:16,310 --> 01:20:13,360
and growing and i needed to understand

2277
01:20:17,110 --> 01:20:16,320
and i was practicing and getting better

2278
01:20:18,629 --> 01:20:17,120
once

2279
01:20:21,030 --> 01:20:18,639
you have it it's not really that

2280
01:20:21,590 --> 01:20:21,040
practical a tool it's not something you

2281
01:20:24,229 --> 01:20:21,600
really

2282
01:20:24,709 --> 01:20:24,239
need to do i recall you saying that

2283
01:20:26,870 --> 01:20:24,719
children

2284
01:20:27,830 --> 01:20:26,880
have an easier time getting to npmr is

2285
01:20:30,550 --> 01:20:27,840
that correct right oh

2286
01:20:32,149 --> 01:20:30,560
yes children have a much easier time and

2287
01:20:33,830 --> 01:20:32,159
the reason is they don't have that big

2288
01:20:35,590 --> 01:20:33,840
intellect blocking them

2289
01:20:37,510 --> 01:20:35,600
does that not mean that we can use that

2290
01:20:39,510 --> 01:20:37,520
as a test where we ask children to

2291
01:20:41,590 --> 01:20:39,520
remote view for us and then see

2292
01:20:42,709 --> 01:20:41,600
if they're able to predict it better

2293
01:20:45,030 --> 01:20:42,719
than adults

2294
01:20:46,709 --> 01:20:45,040
you could you could do that i suspect if

2295
01:20:48,310 --> 01:20:46,719
you you'd have to get maybe a couple

2296
01:20:49,830 --> 01:20:48,320
hundred children and run them through a

2297
01:20:51,910 --> 01:20:49,840
very specific kind of

2298
01:20:52,950 --> 01:20:51,920
situations and see what sort of things

2299
01:20:55,189 --> 01:20:52,960
they do

2300
01:20:57,910 --> 01:20:55,199
they're very imaginative as well most

2301
01:21:00,310 --> 01:20:57,920
children when they meet an adult

2302
01:21:02,629 --> 01:21:00,320
what they try to do is tell the adult

2303
01:21:04,390 --> 01:21:02,639
whatever the adult wants to hear

2304
01:21:06,149 --> 01:21:04,400
so if they get the idea that you know

2305
01:21:09,350 --> 01:21:06,159
you'd like them to

2306
01:21:10,870 --> 01:21:09,360
tell you something you know like there's

2307
01:21:12,310 --> 01:21:10,880
must be something in that room and what

2308
01:21:13,830 --> 01:21:12,320
is it well they'll go right away with

2309
01:21:15,510 --> 01:21:13,840
their imagination trying to figure out

2310
01:21:16,149 --> 01:21:15,520
what it is because they want to give the

2311
01:21:19,350 --> 01:21:16,159
right

2312
01:21:20,950 --> 01:21:19,360
answer we we kind of teach them that

2313
01:21:22,950 --> 01:21:20,960
rather than just be open to

2314
01:21:24,470 --> 01:21:22,960
whatever answer but yes in general if

2315
01:21:25,110 --> 01:21:24,480
you got lots of kids you'd find that

2316
01:21:29,350 --> 01:21:25,120
they were

2317
01:21:31,590 --> 01:21:29,360
generally much better than that than a

2318
01:21:32,550 --> 01:21:31,600
group of a thousand adults the children

2319
01:21:35,669 --> 01:21:32,560
would get it right

2320
01:21:36,790 --> 01:21:35,679
more often sure right sure enough anyway

2321
01:21:38,790 --> 01:21:36,800
you go to the site you wrote

2322
01:21:41,030 --> 01:21:38,800
remote view then you type your number

2323
01:21:42,870 --> 01:21:41,040
back in and up comes the picture

2324
01:21:44,229 --> 01:21:42,880
so now you got what you wrote down i see

2325
01:21:46,149 --> 01:21:44,239
it i said that's what you forgot

2326
01:21:48,070 --> 01:21:46,159
and then there's the picture now so you

2327
01:21:50,390 --> 01:21:48,080
got an immediate did i get it right

2328
01:21:51,910 --> 01:21:50,400
did i get it wrong and how much of it

2329
01:21:52,709 --> 01:21:51,920
did i get right did i get part of it

2330
01:21:54,550 --> 01:21:52,719
right

2331
01:21:55,830 --> 01:21:54,560
you know because you're not just review

2332
01:21:56,870 --> 01:21:55,840
remote viewing the whole picture you're

2333
01:21:58,550 --> 01:21:56,880
remote viewing

2334
01:21:59,669 --> 01:21:58,560
elements of it and aspects of it and

2335
01:22:01,270 --> 01:21:59,679
feelings of it you know what does it

2336
01:22:03,590 --> 01:22:01,280
smell like what does it sound like

2337
01:22:04,870 --> 01:22:03,600
is it happy is it sad is it big is it

2338
01:22:06,629 --> 01:22:04,880
small

2339
01:22:08,229 --> 01:22:06,639
you're doing all of those kinds of

2340
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:08,239
things because as a beginner

2341
01:22:12,229 --> 01:22:11,120
that's easier than what's the picture

2342
01:22:14,149 --> 01:22:12,239
look like

2343
01:22:15,430 --> 01:22:14,159
that's harder for you to grok when

2344
01:22:17,189 --> 01:22:15,440
you're a beginner

2345
01:22:19,669 --> 01:22:17,199
when you're just starting you break it

2346
01:22:21,430 --> 01:22:19,679
down into all kinds of little things

2347
01:22:22,950 --> 01:22:21,440
and you'll surprise yourself how much of

2348
01:22:26,149 --> 01:22:22,960
it you can get

2349
01:22:27,830 --> 01:22:26,159
when you do that okay and that's the

2350
01:22:29,750 --> 01:22:27,840
place where you start

2351
01:22:31,030 --> 01:22:29,760
and it's easy i mean you just get the

2352
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:31,040
site it's free

2353
01:22:34,629 --> 01:22:33,199
and you get immediate feedback of

2354
01:22:36,870 --> 01:22:34,639
whether you got it right or wrong

2355
01:22:37,830 --> 01:22:36,880
now with healing you don't get immediate

2356
01:22:40,629 --> 01:22:37,840
feedback

2357
01:22:42,070 --> 01:22:40,639
okay you heal you know if you want sick

2358
01:22:43,590 --> 01:22:42,080
people for targets go talk to your

2359
01:22:45,030 --> 01:22:43,600
grandmother you know she knows people

2360
01:22:48,149 --> 01:22:45,040
who aren't feeling well

2361
01:22:51,030 --> 01:22:48,159
and then you can ask her well you know

2362
01:22:51,990 --> 01:22:51,040
how's susie doing now is she feeling any

2363
01:22:54,310 --> 01:22:52,000
better and grandma

2364
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:54,320
will tell you perhaps so you need to get

2365
01:22:57,590 --> 01:22:55,360
feedback

2366
01:22:58,390 --> 01:22:57,600
but now you have to do it hundreds of

2367
01:23:00,550 --> 01:22:58,400
times

2368
01:23:02,790 --> 01:23:00,560
and start looking at statistics and

2369
01:23:05,030 --> 01:23:02,800
start looking at the

2370
01:23:06,470 --> 01:23:05,040
the uh the difficulty of the case is it

2371
01:23:07,910 --> 01:23:06,480
something that's chronic or is it

2372
01:23:08,950 --> 01:23:07,920
something that's just minor like a

2373
01:23:12,390 --> 01:23:08,960
headache

2374
01:23:14,870 --> 01:23:12,400
so that kind of thing now you can get

2375
01:23:16,550 --> 01:23:14,880
some immediate feedback on diagnosis

2376
01:23:18,310 --> 01:23:16,560
where you look at someone and just see

2377
01:23:21,110 --> 01:23:18,320
what's wrong with them

2378
01:23:22,790 --> 01:23:21,120
and if you get the diet then you can ask

2379
01:23:24,709 --> 01:23:22,800
grandma you know what the diagnosis is

2380
01:23:27,590 --> 01:23:24,719
what did susie have

2381
01:23:28,550 --> 01:23:27,600
so there's there's lots of ways for you

2382
01:23:31,110 --> 01:23:28,560
to practice

2383
01:23:31,669 --> 01:23:31,120
that don't take a lot of effort on your

2384
01:23:36,390 --> 01:23:31,679
part

2385
01:23:40,310 --> 01:23:36,400
or any money just go spend some time

2386
01:23:43,669 --> 01:23:40,320
doing it and your key problem

2387
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:43,679
is going to be your intellect the key

2388
01:23:45,990 --> 01:23:45,520
problem is going to get that intellect

2389
01:23:49,510 --> 01:23:46,000
to

2390
01:23:56,790 --> 01:23:49,520
whatever

2391
01:23:58,229 --> 01:23:56,800
another hint is that the database is

2392
01:24:00,229 --> 01:23:58,239
fast you're really getting the state out

2393
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:00,239
of a database and by the

2394
01:24:03,669 --> 01:24:02,159
you know when you have your intention is

2395
01:24:05,990 --> 01:24:03,679
how you do the query

2396
01:24:06,709 --> 01:24:06,000
where you send out that intention and

2397
01:24:09,669 --> 01:24:06,719
instantly

2398
01:24:10,310 --> 01:24:09,679
the result comes in it's not like google

2399
01:24:12,870 --> 01:24:10,320
that takes

2400
01:24:13,830 --> 01:24:12,880
you know a half a second before the

2401
01:24:17,030 --> 01:24:13,840
results come in

2402
01:24:18,709 --> 01:24:17,040
it comes back instantly so a lot of

2403
01:24:20,070 --> 01:24:18,719
people will put out their intention and

2404
01:24:21,990 --> 01:24:20,080
then they'll get ready for the result

2405
01:24:23,270 --> 01:24:22,000
but the results already been delivered

2406
01:24:25,189 --> 01:24:23,280
and they missed it

2407
01:24:26,550 --> 01:24:25,199
yeah so you have to be aware that it's

2408
01:24:28,390 --> 01:24:26,560
coming very very

2409
01:24:30,709 --> 01:24:28,400
quickly so the first thing the first

2410
01:24:31,510 --> 01:24:30,719
idea that comes into your mind the first

2411
01:24:32,550 --> 01:24:31,520
sensation

2412
01:24:33,830 --> 01:24:32,560
that's interesting what else would

2413
01:24:35,430 --> 01:24:33,840
people be aware of because that's a

2414
01:24:38,790 --> 01:24:35,440
tidbit i haven't heard before

2415
01:24:40,629 --> 01:24:38,800
yeah take the very first thing um

2416
01:24:41,990 --> 01:24:40,639
well the second or the second thing that

2417
01:24:43,270 --> 01:24:42,000
i would share with you break it up into

2418
01:24:45,270 --> 01:24:43,280
pieces don't just try to

2419
01:24:47,270 --> 01:24:45,280
see the whole picture okay break it up

2420
01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:47,280
into pieces what does it feel like

2421
01:24:51,510 --> 01:24:49,440
you know what's that what's the ambience

2422
01:24:53,990 --> 01:24:51,520
what are the basic colors

2423
01:24:55,030 --> 01:24:54,000
you know is it red or yellow or green or

2424
01:24:57,590 --> 01:24:55,040
white is it a

2425
01:24:58,070 --> 01:24:57,600
or is it rainbow colors does it have a

2426
01:25:01,189 --> 01:24:58,080
cell

2427
01:25:03,189 --> 01:25:01,199
a smell does it have a a sense of uh you

2428
01:25:04,950 --> 01:25:03,199
know is it light or dark

2429
01:25:06,470 --> 01:25:04,960
yeah those kinds of things and what are

2430
01:25:08,229 --> 01:25:06,480
the elements say in your mind say well

2431
01:25:10,310 --> 01:25:08,239
what are the architectural elements

2432
01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:10,320
and you may just get a picture of a

2433
01:25:13,750 --> 01:25:12,000
circle so you put a circle

2434
01:25:15,350 --> 01:25:13,760
and you can say well what else so do it

2435
01:25:17,270 --> 01:25:15,360
in stages what else

2436
01:25:18,390 --> 01:25:17,280
oh a line over here all right put the

2437
01:25:20,550 --> 01:25:18,400
line over there

2438
01:25:21,590 --> 01:25:20,560
anything else oh yeah zigzag line down

2439
01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,600
this side

2440
01:25:24,550 --> 01:25:23,199
and just keep doing that until you say

2441
01:25:25,350 --> 01:25:24,560
is there anything else and you'll get

2442
01:25:27,669 --> 01:25:25,360
nothing

2443
01:25:29,189 --> 01:25:27,679
well then you're done and when you get

2444
01:25:30,870 --> 01:25:29,199
nothing and you've gone through all of

2445
01:25:32,629 --> 01:25:30,880
those things then you look at your lines

2446
01:25:35,350 --> 01:25:32,639
and zigzags and circle

2447
01:25:37,030 --> 01:25:35,360
and look at your picture and see if

2448
01:25:38,390 --> 01:25:37,040
there's any relationship between what

2449
01:25:40,310 --> 01:25:38,400
you did in that picture

2450
01:25:42,390 --> 01:25:40,320
now the probability that you're going to

2451
01:25:43,910 --> 01:25:42,400
get things that really fit that picture

2452
01:25:45,590 --> 01:25:43,920
is probably what

2453
01:25:46,870 --> 01:25:45,600
one in ten thousand you know i mean

2454
01:25:47,830 --> 01:25:46,880
there's all these pictures and the

2455
01:25:49,910 --> 01:25:47,840
pictures are

2456
01:25:52,149 --> 01:25:49,920
are not like pictures of fog these are

2457
01:25:53,830 --> 01:25:52,159
very you know they have a lot of things

2458
01:25:55,350 --> 01:25:53,840
in the pictures they're very clear

2459
01:25:57,110 --> 01:25:55,360
elements they've been picked for remote

2460
01:26:00,470 --> 01:25:57,120
viewing for that reason

2461
01:26:01,030 --> 01:26:00,480
so it's not likely that you're going to

2462
01:26:03,830 --> 01:26:01,040
get

2463
01:26:04,950 --> 01:26:03,840
say 75 80 percent of all the elements

2464
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:04,960
right

2465
01:26:08,310 --> 01:26:06,800
yes you might get one of them you might

2466
01:26:11,669 --> 01:26:08,320
get treated just by

2467
01:26:13,110 --> 01:26:11,679
just by being lucky but you consider it

2468
01:26:22,470 --> 01:26:13,120
a

2469
01:26:24,870 --> 01:26:22,480
the lottery

2470
01:26:27,350 --> 01:26:24,880
or to make money they can try but it

2471
01:26:30,870 --> 01:26:27,360
mostly doesn't work

2472
01:26:32,229 --> 01:26:30,880
because because the system doesn't allow

2473
01:26:40,550 --> 01:26:32,239
it

2474
01:26:43,590 --> 01:26:40,560
of fact there was a

2475
01:26:46,310 --> 01:26:43,600
there was a story i read

2476
01:26:47,910 --> 01:26:46,320
that a fellow who was very good at this

2477
01:26:49,430 --> 01:26:47,920
and i think he did it professionally he

2478
01:26:51,990 --> 01:26:49,440
was probably one of those people that

2479
01:26:53,270 --> 01:26:52,000
you know stands up and picks people out

2480
01:26:54,790 --> 01:26:53,280
of the audience and tells them about

2481
01:26:56,229 --> 01:26:54,800
their grandmother or something like that

2482
01:26:58,550 --> 01:26:56,239
he was somebody who was very talented

2483
01:27:01,590 --> 01:26:58,560
about getting data out of the databases

2484
01:27:04,149 --> 01:27:01,600
so he did a he did the

2485
01:27:05,430 --> 01:27:04,159
the winning lottery number and he wrote

2486
01:27:08,229 --> 01:27:05,440
it down

2487
01:27:09,430 --> 01:27:08,239
and he didn't buy ticket or anything he

2488
01:27:12,870 --> 01:27:09,440
just wrote it down

2489
01:27:14,550 --> 01:27:12,880
and he got it he wrote it down correctly

2490
01:27:17,590 --> 01:27:14,560
and he did that again he did it several

2491
01:27:20,790 --> 01:27:17,600
times where he predicted the lottery

2492
01:27:22,709 --> 01:27:20,800
correctly so he said okay

2493
01:27:24,310 --> 01:27:22,719
i'm going to buy a ticket this time and

2494
01:27:25,270 --> 01:27:24,320
he'd predict you know what it was going

2495
01:27:28,870 --> 01:27:25,280
to be

2496
01:27:31,189 --> 01:27:28,880
and he bought the ticket and

2497
01:27:32,310 --> 01:27:31,199
he didn't win the lottery but had all

2498
01:27:34,310 --> 01:27:32,320
the numbers right

2499
01:27:36,310 --> 01:27:34,320
except they were all off by one digit

2500
01:27:38,629 --> 01:27:36,320
all the way through

2501
01:27:40,470 --> 01:27:38,639
well that was just the system telling

2502
01:27:42,870 --> 01:27:40,480
him nice try

2503
01:27:43,750 --> 01:27:42,880
but you know no banana you know you're

2504
01:27:47,590 --> 01:27:43,760
you're not going to

2505
01:27:49,430 --> 01:27:47,600
to do that so it wasn't like he was

2506
01:27:51,270 --> 01:27:49,440
far off i mean he was far off every

2507
01:27:52,390 --> 01:27:51,280
digit was wrong but it was always wrong

2508
01:27:54,790 --> 01:27:52,400
by just one

2509
01:27:56,790 --> 01:27:54,800
this seems to me to be incontrovertible

2510
01:28:00,470 --> 01:27:56,800
evidence but yet it's not as if it's

2511
01:28:02,550 --> 01:28:00,480
clear that this phenomenon is replicable

2512
01:28:04,390 --> 01:28:02,560
and so i don't see why it's so hard why

2513
01:28:06,550 --> 01:28:04,400
is it that the system won't allow

2514
01:28:07,510 --> 01:28:06,560
the paranormal or remote viewing to be

2515
01:28:10,310 --> 01:28:07,520
proved

2516
01:28:11,189 --> 01:28:10,320
or to be shown to be true with more

2517
01:28:12,629 --> 01:28:11,199
evidence

2518
01:28:14,629 --> 01:28:12,639
that there's just huge amounts of

2519
01:28:15,430 --> 01:28:14,639
evidence it's just that you don't look

2520
01:28:17,669 --> 01:28:15,440
for it

2521
01:28:19,110 --> 01:28:17,679
because you assume that there isn't

2522
01:28:22,470 --> 01:28:19,120
there's lots of evidence there's

2523
01:28:24,870 --> 01:28:22,480
lots of people doing um

2524
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:24,880
you know doing remote viewing very

2525
01:28:29,270 --> 01:28:26,800
seriously there's

2526
01:28:30,629 --> 01:28:29,280
you'll find just go go look for it and

2527
01:28:31,990 --> 01:28:30,639
you'll find that there's lots of

2528
01:28:33,030 --> 01:28:32,000
evidence out there if you're looking for

2529
01:28:35,030 --> 01:28:33,040
evidence read then

2530
01:28:36,149 --> 01:28:35,040
dean raiden's books he talks lots of

2531
01:28:37,990 --> 01:28:36,159
experiments

2532
01:28:39,189 --> 01:28:38,000
all those things are just exactly the

2533
01:28:41,430 --> 01:28:39,199
way he says they are

2534
01:28:43,590 --> 01:28:41,440
he's not a goofball you know doing crazy

2535
01:28:44,390 --> 01:28:43,600
stuff he's a he's a smart guy and he's

2536
01:28:47,110 --> 01:28:44,400
very careful

2537
01:28:49,350 --> 01:28:47,120
about his science he sees himself as a

2538
01:28:51,669 --> 01:28:49,360
scientist doing these experiments

2539
01:28:53,750 --> 01:28:51,679
so there's lots of proof there's lots of

2540
01:28:56,790 --> 01:28:53,760
stuff out there

2541
01:28:59,350 --> 01:28:56,800
that's not a problem there's a skeptic

2542
01:29:00,950 --> 01:28:59,360
his name is randall randy right he has

2543
01:29:03,750 --> 01:29:00,960
some bridesmaids

2544
01:29:05,030 --> 01:29:03,760
right right so why hasn't that been

2545
01:29:06,950 --> 01:29:05,040
claimed i don't understand

2546
01:29:08,629 --> 01:29:06,960
well that has been claimed but it's

2547
01:29:11,910 --> 01:29:08,639
never been paid

2548
01:29:17,270 --> 01:29:11,920
so that's if you're looking for a scam

2549
01:29:20,470 --> 01:29:20,229
you know that's a that's politics that's

2550
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:20,480
a

2551
01:29:34,070 --> 01:29:32,320
things

2552
01:29:35,990 --> 01:29:34,080
perhaps it had to be that way because if

2553
01:29:36,790 --> 01:29:36,000
the person was able to claim the prize

2554
01:29:38,310 --> 01:29:36,800
then the system

2555
01:29:40,149 --> 01:29:38,320
should not have given that person the

2556
01:29:41,189 --> 01:29:40,159
answer because as you're mentioning with

2557
01:29:43,189 --> 01:29:41,199
the lottery

2558
01:29:44,550 --> 01:29:43,199
there's there's been there have been

2559
01:29:46,790 --> 01:29:44,560
people who have done

2560
01:29:48,390 --> 01:29:46,800
what they said they would do things that

2561
01:29:50,070 --> 01:29:48,400
just kind of showed that you know

2562
01:29:51,590 --> 01:29:50,080
they did paranormal things or whatever

2563
01:29:51,990 --> 01:29:51,600
there's not that there's lots of people

2564
01:29:55,669 --> 01:29:52,000
can do

2565
01:30:01,750 --> 01:29:59,750
most of them probably are just amateurs

2566
01:30:03,270 --> 01:30:01,760
at it so if you put them on stage and

2567
01:30:05,030 --> 01:30:03,280
make ever you know put a lot of people

2568
01:30:06,550 --> 01:30:05,040
watching they may

2569
01:30:08,390 --> 01:30:06,560
their intellect gets in the way their

2570
01:30:10,550 --> 01:30:08,400
fear gets in the way

2571
01:30:11,910 --> 01:30:10,560
but there's um there's plenty that can

2572
01:30:15,430 --> 01:30:11,920
under stress can

2573
01:30:17,830 --> 01:30:15,440
perform pretty flawlessly and

2574
01:30:19,270 --> 01:30:17,840
some of those took randy at his word and

2575
01:30:22,070 --> 01:30:19,280
randy basically

2576
01:30:23,189 --> 01:30:22,080
said no must have been a trick i don't

2577
01:30:25,030 --> 01:30:23,199
know what the trick was but it must have

2578
01:30:29,030 --> 01:30:25,040
been a trick somehow you don't win

2579
01:30:30,950 --> 01:30:29,040
so it's not really a a real thing

2580
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:30,960
randy and other people who call

2581
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:33,120
themselves skeptics

2582
01:30:37,750 --> 01:30:36,800
that's their belief their belief is that

2583
01:30:39,990 --> 01:30:37,760
it's impossible

2584
01:30:41,350 --> 01:30:40,000
and they'll go to great lengths to try

2585
01:30:43,910 --> 01:30:41,360
to push that belief

2586
01:30:44,390 --> 01:30:43,920
forward but they're not really skeptics

2587
01:30:46,470 --> 01:30:44,400
at all

2588
01:30:47,750 --> 01:30:46,480
they're just believers and they're just

2589
01:30:50,229 --> 01:30:47,760
believers and

2590
01:30:51,510 --> 01:30:50,239
that it isn't possible and they're

2591
01:30:54,629 --> 01:30:51,520
trying to convince others

2592
01:30:55,350 --> 01:30:54,639
to believe what they believe so i very

2593
01:30:57,910 --> 01:30:55,360
much

2594
01:30:59,189 --> 01:30:57,920
am a skeptic and i encourage everybody

2595
01:31:02,629 --> 01:30:59,199
to be skeptical

2596
01:31:04,709 --> 01:31:02,639
just because you are talking to somebody

2597
01:31:07,030 --> 01:31:04,719
in the non-physical

2598
01:31:08,550 --> 01:31:07,040
you need to be very skeptical of

2599
01:31:10,550 --> 01:31:08,560
anything you get

2600
01:31:12,390 --> 01:31:10,560
maybe you just made it up remember you

2601
01:31:13,510 --> 01:31:12,400
are consciousness and you can create

2602
01:31:15,270 --> 01:31:13,520
information

2603
01:31:16,629 --> 01:31:15,280
and when you get something you get a

2604
01:31:19,990 --> 01:31:16,639
data stream

2605
01:31:22,870 --> 01:31:20,000
because you created it

2606
01:31:23,590 --> 01:31:22,880
that's the daydream right you can create

2607
01:31:25,430 --> 01:31:23,600
data

2608
01:31:27,350 --> 01:31:25,440
or it could come from the system or it

2609
01:31:30,470 --> 01:31:27,360
could come from some other

2610
01:31:32,149 --> 01:31:30,480
individual all consciousness is netted

2611
01:31:34,229 --> 01:31:32,159
we're all connected we can open and

2612
01:31:35,110 --> 01:31:34,239
close connections to other

2613
01:31:37,669 --> 01:31:35,120
consciousnesses

2614
01:31:38,629 --> 01:31:37,679
they can send things to us so there's

2615
01:31:40,390 --> 01:31:38,639
only three

2616
01:31:42,550 --> 01:31:40,400
possibilities it comes from the system

2617
01:31:43,750 --> 01:31:42,560
it comes from some other iuc you make it

2618
01:31:46,229 --> 01:31:43,760
up yourself

2619
01:31:47,910 --> 01:31:46,239
and there's no tags on any of that you

2620
01:31:49,430 --> 01:31:47,920
know it's not like one comes in blue and

2621
01:31:52,470 --> 01:31:49,440
the other comes in red

2622
01:31:54,709 --> 01:31:52,480
it's all just information and we get all

2623
01:31:56,070 --> 01:31:54,719
that information sometimes all three of

2624
01:31:59,030 --> 01:31:56,080
them scramble together

2625
01:32:00,550 --> 01:31:59,040
and you can't say for sure for certain

2626
01:32:02,629 --> 01:32:00,560
where it comes from

2627
01:32:03,750 --> 01:32:02,639
it can be coming from you as a

2628
01:32:06,870 --> 01:32:03,760
possibility

2629
01:32:10,229 --> 01:32:06,880
with experience you get you do

2630
01:32:11,910 --> 01:32:10,239
know more what's yours and what's not

2631
01:32:13,750 --> 01:32:11,920
when things come to you and they

2632
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:13,760
surprise the heck out of you because

2633
01:32:16,790 --> 01:32:15,520
you just don't have that idea in your

2634
01:32:20,790 --> 01:32:16,800
mind

2635
01:32:23,030 --> 01:32:20,800
then you know that you just get it's

2636
01:32:24,870 --> 01:32:23,040
it's obvious to you that that came from

2637
01:32:26,709 --> 01:32:24,880
outside of you and if that happens many

2638
01:32:28,470 --> 01:32:26,719
many times and you know things turn out

2639
01:32:30,310 --> 01:32:28,480
to be correct and you can remote view

2640
01:32:31,990 --> 01:32:30,320
and you can heal all the stuff then

2641
01:32:33,590 --> 01:32:32,000
then the idea of is this real is it

2642
01:32:34,950 --> 01:32:33,600
coming from outside of me and i'm making

2643
01:32:36,790 --> 01:32:34,960
it all up well you're not going to heal

2644
01:32:38,149 --> 01:32:36,800
somebody if you're making it all up

2645
01:32:39,590 --> 01:32:38,159
you're not going to remote view you're

2646
01:32:40,149 --> 01:32:39,600
not going to be very successful getting

2647
01:32:42,070 --> 01:32:40,159
the picture

2648
01:32:43,270 --> 01:32:42,080
elements right if you're just making it

2649
01:32:46,229 --> 01:32:43,280
all up so

2650
01:32:48,709 --> 01:32:46,239
you can convince yourself that it's real

2651
01:32:50,629 --> 01:32:48,719
but you have to convince yourself

2652
01:32:51,830 --> 01:32:50,639
that it's real and nobody else can

2653
01:32:54,709 --> 01:32:51,840
convince you

2654
01:32:55,910 --> 01:32:54,719
and matter of fact people like you and i

2655
01:32:58,229 --> 01:32:55,920
who are very

2656
01:33:00,870 --> 01:32:58,239
left brain dominant because we're

2657
01:33:03,590 --> 01:33:00,880
science guys

2658
01:33:04,149 --> 01:33:03,600
we are very hard to come to the we're

2659
01:33:05,830 --> 01:33:04,159
very

2660
01:33:08,149 --> 01:33:05,840
difficult to come to the conclusion that

2661
01:33:10,229 --> 01:33:08,159
it's real i was working with bob

2662
01:33:11,830 --> 01:33:10,239
and probably had you know one in a

2663
01:33:13,350 --> 01:33:11,840
hundred thousand at the things that i

2664
01:33:14,950 --> 01:33:13,360
was doing was just good luck you know

2665
01:33:16,470 --> 01:33:14,960
i'm a good guesser you write a ten digit

2666
01:33:17,350 --> 01:33:16,480
number on the board and i'm just good at

2667
01:33:20,229 --> 01:33:17,360
guessing it

2668
01:33:21,510 --> 01:33:20,239
you know well if you do the the math you

2669
01:33:25,030 --> 01:33:21,520
can keep track of

2670
01:33:27,189 --> 01:33:25,040
of the statistics and it was a

2671
01:33:28,629 --> 01:33:27,199
you know an extremely extremely

2672
01:33:30,149 --> 01:33:28,639
extremely unlikely

2673
01:33:31,750 --> 01:33:30,159
that i was doing what i was doing just

2674
01:33:33,430 --> 01:33:31,760
by good luck you know people just got

2675
01:33:35,350 --> 01:33:33,440
to get healthy after i worked on them

2676
01:33:36,229 --> 01:33:35,360
and things like that so i had lots and

2677
01:33:38,790 --> 01:33:36,239
lots of evidence

2678
01:33:39,430 --> 01:33:38,800
but i still didn't believe it in my mind

2679
01:33:41,030 --> 01:33:39,440
well

2680
01:33:43,669 --> 01:33:41,040
i don't know how it works therefore it

2681
01:33:46,790 --> 01:33:43,679
could be something very

2682
01:33:49,590 --> 01:33:46,800
mundane that i'm just missing so

2683
01:33:50,149 --> 01:33:49,600
i ten and most left-brained people tend

2684
01:33:53,910 --> 01:33:50,159
to be

2685
01:33:56,070 --> 01:33:53,920
very hard to convince that

2686
01:33:57,430 --> 01:33:56,080
it's real there is something real out

2687
01:34:00,550 --> 01:33:57,440
there that's

2688
01:34:01,189 --> 01:34:00,560
outside of you that you can interact

2689
01:34:06,790 --> 01:34:01,199
with

2690
01:34:07,430 --> 01:34:06,800
the thing that took me over the top was

2691
01:34:09,669 --> 01:34:07,440
when i went

2692
01:34:11,030 --> 01:34:09,679
with dennis on that outer body together

2693
01:34:12,310 --> 01:34:11,040
and it was taped

2694
01:34:13,990 --> 01:34:12,320
and there was a tape of everything

2695
01:34:15,189 --> 01:34:14,000
dennis said and a separate tape of

2696
01:34:16,709 --> 01:34:15,199
everything i said

2697
01:34:18,310 --> 01:34:16,719
and you play those tapes together

2698
01:34:19,669 --> 01:34:18,320
synchronize them in time and dennis and

2699
01:34:21,189 --> 01:34:19,679
i are talking back and forth to each

2700
01:34:22,950 --> 01:34:21,199
other in conversation

2701
01:34:24,550 --> 01:34:22,960
well that's kind of hard to fake that if

2702
01:34:27,189 --> 01:34:24,560
you're making it up

2703
01:34:28,070 --> 01:34:27,199
you know that's really really hard so

2704
01:34:29,830 --> 01:34:28,080
after

2705
01:34:31,590 --> 01:34:29,840
that and we saw the same things we

2706
01:34:35,590 --> 01:34:31,600
talked to the same beings

2707
01:34:38,790 --> 01:34:35,600
and that was that was the thing that got

2708
01:34:40,709 --> 01:34:38,800
it out of my mind down to the bean level

2709
01:34:41,910 --> 01:34:40,719
after that i didn't ask anymore is it

2710
01:34:44,550 --> 01:34:41,920
real

2711
01:34:45,270 --> 01:34:44,560
even though intellectually i knew it was

2712
01:34:46,950 --> 01:34:45,280
real

2713
01:34:48,470 --> 01:34:46,960
what a hundred thousand to one that i'm

2714
01:34:50,629 --> 01:34:48,480
a good guesser

2715
01:34:52,310 --> 01:34:50,639
now there's something else going on

2716
01:34:55,750 --> 01:34:52,320
there obviously

2717
01:34:59,109 --> 01:34:55,760
but i didn't let it

2718
01:35:00,709 --> 01:34:59,119
get to me at the bean level until way

2719
01:35:02,709 --> 01:35:00,719
later i was at bob's for probably a

2720
01:35:04,950 --> 01:35:02,719
couple of years before that thing that

2721
01:35:06,229 --> 01:35:04,960
that uh dennis and i did that made me

2722
01:35:07,990 --> 01:35:06,239
feel it's real

2723
01:35:09,669 --> 01:35:08,000
so i suspect you'll be the same and so

2724
01:35:11,750 --> 01:35:09,679
well most everybody else it's a

2725
01:35:12,709 --> 01:35:11,760
you know that's a techie takes a lot for

2726
01:35:15,430 --> 01:35:12,719
us to

2727
01:35:16,870 --> 01:35:15,440
change our fundamental view of the

2728
01:35:19,830 --> 01:35:16,880
nature of reality

2729
01:35:22,229 --> 01:35:19,840
we need proof we need a lot of evidence

2730
01:35:25,430 --> 01:35:22,239
and it should be that way

2731
01:35:27,109 --> 01:35:25,440
you should be skeptical you meet some

2732
01:35:28,950 --> 01:35:27,119
being out there and they said oh yeah

2733
01:35:30,790 --> 01:35:28,960
this is god talking and what i want you

2734
01:35:34,070 --> 01:35:30,800
to do is go shoot those people

2735
01:35:36,070 --> 01:35:34,080
you know like some crazy people do and

2736
01:35:37,270 --> 01:35:36,080
you got to be skeptical you got to say

2737
01:35:40,709 --> 01:35:37,280
whoa

2738
01:35:42,149 --> 01:35:40,719
no thank you just because

2739
01:35:43,590 --> 01:35:42,159
something talks to you and tells you

2740
01:35:45,189 --> 01:35:43,600
that they're god isn't a reason to

2741
01:35:47,270 --> 01:35:45,199
believe a word of it

2742
01:35:49,510 --> 01:35:47,280
you know you always remain skeptical of

2743
01:35:52,870 --> 01:35:49,520
everything you get

2744
01:35:56,229 --> 01:35:52,880
and only slowly do you collect enough

2745
01:35:58,310 --> 01:35:56,239
evidence that you can

2746
01:35:59,830 --> 01:35:58,320
that you no longer worry about you know

2747
01:36:03,109 --> 01:35:59,840
is it true or not

2748
01:36:05,590 --> 01:36:03,119
do ufos fit into your theory in any way

2749
01:36:06,550 --> 01:36:05,600
or aliens yeah in a in kind of a

2750
01:36:10,709 --> 01:36:06,560
sideways

2751
01:36:11,669 --> 01:36:10,719
way they do um we live in a virtual

2752
01:36:16,070 --> 01:36:11,679
reality

2753
01:36:18,390 --> 01:36:16,080
just a matter of information in your

2754
01:36:21,510 --> 01:36:18,400
data stream

2755
01:36:23,510 --> 01:36:21,520
um if it would you know if you

2756
01:36:25,030 --> 01:36:23,520
and your five friends are all standing

2757
01:36:26,790 --> 01:36:25,040
out on the balcony of your house and a

2758
01:36:28,470 --> 01:36:26,800
flying saucer comes down and lands in

2759
01:36:29,910 --> 01:36:28,480
your yard and little green men come out

2760
01:36:30,870 --> 01:36:29,920
and wave to you get back in their ship

2761
01:36:33,910 --> 01:36:30,880
and fly away

2762
01:36:35,270 --> 01:36:33,920
and all five of you saw it well how

2763
01:36:36,790 --> 01:36:35,280
could that happen

2764
01:36:38,310 --> 01:36:36,800
well if you're a materialist then you

2765
01:36:39,669 --> 01:36:38,320
have to imagine that there's aliens and

2766
01:36:41,350 --> 01:36:39,679
they live someplace and they have high

2767
01:36:42,790 --> 01:36:41,360
technology and they can build ships and

2768
01:36:43,750 --> 01:36:42,800
they flew there and they landed in your

2769
01:36:45,189 --> 01:36:43,760
yard

2770
01:36:46,950 --> 01:36:45,199
but if you realize it's a virtual

2771
01:36:48,790 --> 01:36:46,960
reality you can say oh somebody put that

2772
01:36:51,189 --> 01:36:48,800
in my data stream

2773
01:36:51,990 --> 01:36:51,199
it's just data reality is created by

2774
01:36:54,229 --> 01:36:52,000
data in a data

2775
01:36:55,830 --> 01:36:54,239
stream what about people like bob lazar

2776
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:55,840
who said that they worked on craft and

2777
01:36:59,669 --> 01:36:57,920
the craft operate on interesting physics

2778
01:37:02,229 --> 01:36:59,679
which seems to imply that it does have a

2779
01:37:05,350 --> 01:37:02,239
material basis at least for aliens

2780
01:37:06,229 --> 01:37:05,360
or their craft well lots of things have

2781
01:37:29,189 --> 01:37:06,239
a

2782
01:37:31,669 --> 01:37:29,199
their minds

2783
01:37:32,229 --> 01:37:31,679
and they they maybe look at technology

2784
01:37:33,750 --> 01:37:32,239
so it's

2785
01:37:35,830 --> 01:37:33,760
it's that kind of a thing it's

2786
01:37:38,149 --> 01:37:35,840
consciousness meaning that the

2787
01:37:39,910 --> 01:37:38,159
u.s government doesn't house it and it's

2788
01:37:42,870 --> 01:37:39,920
just in bob lazar's mind or

2789
01:37:44,870 --> 01:37:42,880
that all the people in that facility are

2790
01:37:47,030 --> 01:37:44,880
collectively getting data from the same

2791
01:37:49,430 --> 01:37:47,040
stream

2792
01:37:50,470 --> 01:37:49,440
now it's i'm not sure now we got a

2793
01:37:52,470 --> 01:37:50,480
facility involved

2794
01:37:53,830 --> 01:37:52,480
we did have just one in one individual

2795
01:37:56,149 --> 01:37:53,840
yeah what i meant was that

2796
01:37:58,149 --> 01:37:56,159
bob lazar was someone who at least he

2797
01:38:01,189 --> 01:37:58,159
claims to have worked at a facility near

2798
01:38:03,109 --> 01:38:01,199
area 51 i think it was called s1

2799
01:38:04,390 --> 01:38:03,119
he was a particle physicist before and

2800
01:38:06,229 --> 01:38:04,400
he was recruited by the

2801
01:38:07,830 --> 01:38:06,239
united states government to come work on

2802
01:38:09,189 --> 01:38:07,840
some top secret project when he got

2803
01:38:10,790 --> 01:38:09,199
there and he saw the craft

2804
01:38:12,470 --> 01:38:10,800
he said he actually chuckled himself

2805
01:38:14,229 --> 01:38:12,480
because he said oh look it's just

2806
01:38:16,310 --> 01:38:14,239
u.s technology and that's what people

2807
01:38:18,149 --> 01:38:16,320
are in a clamor about when it comes to

2808
01:38:19,590 --> 01:38:18,159
saying that ufos exist because he was

2809
01:38:20,790 --> 01:38:19,600
one of those people who thought the ufos

2810
01:38:21,510 --> 01:38:20,800
doesn't exist so he's like okay well

2811
01:38:23,430 --> 01:38:21,520
here's the

2812
01:38:24,550 --> 01:38:23,440
explanation then when he got to working

2813
01:38:26,310 --> 01:38:24,560
on it more and more

2814
01:38:27,750 --> 01:38:26,320
he realized this is a technology that we

2815
01:38:29,910 --> 01:38:27,760
don't have and that it operates

2816
01:38:31,990 --> 01:38:29,920
by what he calls gravitational wave

2817
01:38:34,390 --> 01:38:32,000
amplification

2818
01:38:35,189 --> 01:38:34,400
which is not something that we possess

2819
01:38:37,030 --> 01:38:35,199
yeah

2820
01:38:38,790 --> 01:38:37,040
i would be very skeptical of that

2821
01:38:41,990 --> 01:38:38,800
because i'm skeptical of everything

2822
01:38:45,669 --> 01:38:42,000
so i would advise anyone to be

2823
01:38:49,109 --> 01:38:45,679
very skeptical of that now

2824
01:38:51,590 --> 01:38:49,119
aliens in general are something that's

2825
01:38:52,550 --> 01:38:51,600
outside of our normal reality right

2826
01:38:56,629 --> 01:38:52,560
that's that's a

2827
01:38:58,950 --> 01:38:56,639
that's an outside thing so for people to

2828
01:39:00,629 --> 01:38:58,960
think that there are aliens sneaking

2829
01:39:02,629 --> 01:39:00,639
around and doing things and having

2830
01:39:05,590 --> 01:39:02,639
conversations with aliens

2831
01:39:07,189 --> 01:39:05,600
that's a mind opener into a reality

2832
01:39:09,350 --> 01:39:07,199
being bigger than what we just thought

2833
01:39:11,030 --> 01:39:09,360
it's not just what we see and what we

2834
01:39:13,590 --> 01:39:11,040
hear what we read and what we study in

2835
01:39:16,229 --> 01:39:13,600
science but it might be bigger than that

2836
01:39:17,510 --> 01:39:16,239
well that's a positive thing in as much

2837
01:39:20,550 --> 01:39:17,520
as it cracks

2838
01:39:23,109 --> 01:39:20,560
the mind open a bit to bigger

2839
01:39:26,709 --> 01:39:23,119
possibilities than just the stuff that's

2840
01:39:29,189 --> 01:39:26,719
standard and that's a good thing

2841
01:39:29,910 --> 01:39:29,199
so i can see that the consciousness

2842
01:39:31,910 --> 01:39:29,920
system

2843
01:39:33,430 --> 01:39:31,920
in order to crack those minds open might

2844
01:39:37,270 --> 01:39:33,440
be using aliens as

2845
01:39:40,550 --> 01:39:37,280
a way of doing that so that's

2846
01:39:42,950 --> 01:39:40,560
that's one thing okay so so

2847
01:39:43,669 --> 01:39:42,960
yeah it's like that but that doesn't

2848
01:39:47,910 --> 01:39:43,679
mean

2849
01:39:50,310 --> 01:39:47,920
that there are uh tom i gotta get going

2850
01:39:50,950 --> 01:39:50,320
i gotta get going to my massage i'm

2851
01:39:54,229 --> 01:39:50,960
gonna

2852
01:39:55,510 --> 01:39:54,239
the techniques

2853
01:39:57,430 --> 01:39:55,520
you know we could go on like this for

2854
01:39:59,189 --> 01:39:57,440
weeks but uh

2855
01:40:00,950 --> 01:39:59,199
i suspect did you get your two questions

2856
01:40:02,149 --> 01:40:00,960
answered oh

2857
01:40:03,990 --> 01:40:02,159
i definitely got my two questions

2858
01:40:06,149 --> 01:40:04,000
answered okay thank you okay

2859
01:40:07,430 --> 01:40:06,159
good well i'll see you later go get a

2860
01:40:09,189 --> 01:40:07,440
massage

2861
01:40:10,950 --> 01:40:09,199
thank you my friend and i appreciate you

2862
01:40:12,070 --> 01:40:10,960
being so generous with your time and i

2863
01:40:14,229 --> 01:40:12,080
appreciate you helping me

2864
01:40:15,750 --> 01:40:14,239
through this i know that i give the

2865
01:40:17,270 --> 01:40:15,760
impression that i'm a close-minded

2866
01:40:18,470 --> 01:40:17,280
intellectual but i wouldn't be talking

2867
01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:18,480
to you if i was

2868
01:40:21,990 --> 01:40:20,320
and i think if you knew some of my views

2869
01:40:25,590 --> 01:40:22,000
you'd be somewhat astonished

2870
01:40:28,790 --> 01:40:25,600
because well let me put it this way

2871
01:40:29,109 --> 01:40:28,800
i'm not convinced materialism is correct

2872
01:40:32,229 --> 01:40:29,119
nor

2873
01:40:35,430 --> 01:40:32,239
not correct and same with the multiverse

2874
01:40:37,510 --> 01:40:35,440
same with wolfram's theories

2875
01:40:38,629 --> 01:40:37,520
same with yours i'm sorry but i don't

2876
01:40:40,870 --> 01:40:38,639
know what's true

2877
01:40:42,709 --> 01:40:40,880
and so when i do my meditation i do go

2878
01:40:44,629 --> 01:40:42,719
in with the intention of not

2879
01:40:45,910 --> 01:40:44,639
having an intention i just go because i

2880
01:40:47,830 --> 01:40:45,920
want to see i want to feel

2881
01:40:49,270 --> 01:40:47,840
and you mentioned that maybe that could

2882
01:40:50,870 --> 01:40:49,280
be holding me back maybe i should go in

2883
01:40:52,550 --> 01:40:50,880
with a bit more of a focus

2884
01:40:54,149 --> 01:40:52,560
but then i am an intellectual and so it

2885
01:40:55,109 --> 01:40:54,159
would mess with it but either way i just

2886
01:40:56,470 --> 01:40:55,119
wanted you to know that and the only

2887
01:40:57,910 --> 01:40:56,480
reason i didn't correct you at any time

2888
01:40:59,350 --> 01:40:57,920
is because i didn't want it to seem like

2889
01:41:01,750 --> 01:40:59,360
i'm defensive about it

2890
01:41:02,629 --> 01:41:01,760
and it's and also i don't it doesn't

2891
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:02,639
matter too i also

2892
01:41:05,830 --> 01:41:04,000
want to see where would you go with that

2893
01:41:07,669 --> 01:41:05,840
were you gonna say that i'm more of a

2894
01:41:09,590 --> 01:41:07,679
a physicalist or a duelist or a

2895
01:41:11,270 --> 01:41:09,600
non-dualist and i was just curious so

2896
01:41:12,950 --> 01:41:11,280
i'm poking at you because i'm poking at

2897
01:41:14,870 --> 01:41:12,960
myself i don't know

2898
01:41:16,709 --> 01:41:14,880
but i'm not trying to be falsely humble

2899
01:41:18,550 --> 01:41:16,719
and say i don't know all the answers

2900
01:41:19,750 --> 01:41:18,560
like some people

2901
01:41:20,790 --> 01:41:19,760
i don't know the answers but i'm not

2902
01:41:21,750 --> 01:41:20,800
going to claim that i don't know all the

2903
01:41:24,550 --> 01:41:21,760
answers because

2904
01:41:26,790 --> 01:41:24,560
people who do that are virtue singular

2905
01:41:28,870 --> 01:41:26,800
are virtue signaling when they do that

2906
01:41:30,629 --> 01:41:28,880
either way that's where i stand and i

2907
01:41:31,430 --> 01:41:30,639
it's a good place to stand look you're a

2908
01:41:34,229 --> 01:41:31,440
seeker

2909
01:41:34,709 --> 01:41:34,239
you're trying to find the truth and you

2910
01:41:36,550 --> 01:41:34,719
will

2911
01:41:38,870 --> 01:41:36,560
if you keep searching if you put the

2912
01:41:41,270 --> 01:41:38,880
time into it if you make an effort

2913
01:41:42,070 --> 01:41:41,280
if you're serious about it you will get

2914
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:42,080
there

2915
01:41:50,709 --> 01:41:49,280
of paths that'll get you to that truth

2916
01:41:52,790 --> 01:41:50,719
yeah so

2917
01:41:53,910 --> 01:41:52,800
just work on it and the things that work

2918
01:41:55,830 --> 01:41:53,920
for you

2919
01:41:57,590 --> 01:41:55,840
do those the things that don't work for

2920
01:41:59,750 --> 01:41:57,600
you let them go

2921
01:42:02,229 --> 01:41:59,760
and you will eventually end up at that

2922
01:42:03,910 --> 01:42:02,239
one truth that you keep after it

2923
01:42:05,669 --> 01:42:03,920
one question that occurs to me now and

2924
01:42:07,430 --> 01:42:05,679
hopefully you can answer it briefly

2925
01:42:09,350 --> 01:42:07,440
i know that it takes quite some time but

2926
01:42:10,550 --> 01:42:09,360
one question is when you mentioned that

2927
01:42:12,310 --> 01:42:10,560
we're this consciousness and we're

2928
01:42:14,070 --> 01:42:12,320
logged onto the game and that ordinarily

2929
01:42:15,750 --> 01:42:14,080
we identify with the avatar of the game

2930
01:42:17,910 --> 01:42:15,760
and that that's a mistake and what we

2931
01:42:19,590 --> 01:42:17,920
should identify with because it's true

2932
01:42:21,350 --> 01:42:19,600
at least in your theory sorry to put

2933
01:42:22,870 --> 01:42:21,360
quotation marks around it at least it's

2934
01:42:24,629 --> 01:42:22,880
true in your theory that this is who we

2935
01:42:25,590 --> 01:42:24,639
truly are the consciousness above that's

2936
01:42:28,229 --> 01:42:25,600
logged on

2937
01:42:29,830 --> 01:42:28,239
then you said that when we die well some

2938
01:42:30,790 --> 01:42:29,840
parts of our memory i'm not sure if some

2939
01:42:32,629 --> 01:42:30,800
parts are all but

2940
01:42:34,070 --> 01:42:32,639
regardless let's not harp on that some

2941
01:42:36,950 --> 01:42:34,080
parts of the memory at least

2942
01:42:38,229 --> 01:42:36,960
continue on as well as with your choices

2943
01:42:40,229 --> 01:42:38,239
whether you've done good or bad

2944
01:42:41,590 --> 01:42:40,239
or evil or lower entropy or raised

2945
01:42:42,470 --> 01:42:41,600
entropy or however you would like to

2946
01:42:44,070 --> 01:42:42,480
word it

2947
01:42:46,070 --> 01:42:44,080
what i'm wondering is is that supposed

2948
01:42:47,430 --> 01:42:46,080
to bring someone comfort i hear some

2949
01:42:49,189 --> 01:42:47,440
people say this plenty

2950
01:42:50,790 --> 01:42:49,199
i hear some of the people who are on the

2951
01:42:53,350 --> 01:42:50,800
more vedic ends of the tradition

2952
01:42:54,149 --> 01:42:53,360
that say well your consciousness does

2953
01:42:56,229 --> 01:42:54,159
continue on

2954
01:42:57,750 --> 01:42:56,239
past your death now on the western end

2955
01:43:00,870 --> 01:42:57,760
they'll say your consciousness continues

2956
01:43:02,390 --> 01:43:00,880
but you go to a place whereas

2957
01:43:04,310 --> 01:43:02,400
on the more eastern end if your

2958
01:43:05,510 --> 01:43:04,320
consciousness continues but it's not you

2959
01:43:07,510 --> 01:43:05,520
it's not your ego

2960
01:43:09,430 --> 01:43:07,520
it's something else but then what i'm

2961
01:43:11,430 --> 01:43:09,440
wondering is the eastern side doesn't

2962
01:43:13,270 --> 01:43:11,440
seem to provide at least someone like me

2963
01:43:14,629 --> 01:43:13,280
it doesn't provide me with any comfort

2964
01:43:18,070 --> 01:43:14,639
because that

2965
01:43:20,070 --> 01:43:18,080
me that me the player that's logged on

2966
01:43:21,109 --> 01:43:20,080
bears so little resemblance to who i

2967
01:43:23,189 --> 01:43:21,119
identify with now

2968
01:43:24,709 --> 01:43:23,199
that it would be just like a materialist

2969
01:43:26,149 --> 01:43:24,719
trying to give me hope by saying

2970
01:43:28,629 --> 01:43:26,159
well all your molecules are going to

2971
01:43:30,390 --> 01:43:28,639
continue on anyway so technically you do

2972
01:43:32,229 --> 01:43:30,400
live on you're breathing the sun from

2973
01:43:34,870 --> 01:43:32,239
you're breathing the big bang so you

2974
01:43:36,070 --> 01:43:34,880
are like i'm like okay well i see that

2975
01:43:37,430 --> 01:43:36,080
but it bears

2976
01:43:39,270 --> 01:43:37,440
so little resemblance to what i

2977
01:43:40,870 --> 01:43:39,280
conceptualize as my identity

2978
01:43:42,550 --> 01:43:40,880
i don't give you a lot of comfort either

2979
01:43:43,750 --> 01:43:42,560
that that free will awareness unit we

2980
01:43:45,430 --> 01:43:43,760
talked about before

2981
01:43:47,270 --> 01:43:45,440
that's the part that's really logged on

2982
01:43:49,189 --> 01:43:47,280
that's the piece of the iuoc

2983
01:43:51,350 --> 01:43:49,199
individual unit of consciousness that's

2984
01:43:54,229 --> 01:43:51,360
that's logged on to the avatar

2985
01:43:54,709 --> 01:43:54,239
that's a one-off when after that life is

2986
01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:54,719
done

2987
01:44:00,229 --> 01:43:57,920
that that partition's taken down it's

2988
01:44:01,350 --> 01:44:00,239
integrated back into the individual unit

2989
01:44:04,149 --> 01:44:01,360
of consciousness

2990
01:44:04,950 --> 01:44:04,159
and now a new petition gets put down

2991
01:44:07,590 --> 01:44:04,960
with just

2992
01:44:08,790 --> 01:44:07,600
what it's been learned and that goes off

2993
01:44:11,430 --> 01:44:08,800
and logs on so

2994
01:44:12,790 --> 01:44:11,440
all of those petitions all those free

2995
01:44:15,270 --> 01:44:12,800
will awareness units are

2996
01:44:16,390 --> 01:44:15,280
just one-offs when they're done they're

2997
01:44:18,629 --> 01:44:16,400
done

2998
01:44:20,390 --> 01:44:18,639
but what you accumulate is all of your

2999
01:44:21,350 --> 01:44:20,400
experience all your growth all of your

3000
01:44:24,470 --> 01:44:21,360
learning

3001
01:44:27,830 --> 01:44:24,480
all of your quality all of your

3002
01:44:29,990 --> 01:44:27,840
entropy reduction that is accumulated

3003
01:44:31,669 --> 01:44:30,000
and you have a database it's not memory

3004
01:44:33,669 --> 01:44:31,679
but you have a database of

3005
01:44:35,430 --> 01:44:33,679
of all the things that you've done all

3006
01:44:38,149 --> 01:44:35,440
the thoughts all the feelings

3007
01:44:40,229 --> 01:44:38,159
what about your friends what about the

3008
01:44:41,990 --> 01:44:40,239
relationships are those also cataloged

3009
01:44:44,229 --> 01:44:42,000
because i could imagine that even if

3010
01:44:46,470 --> 01:44:44,239
somehow i am to continue on

3011
01:44:47,590 --> 01:44:46,480
with my attributes but if i don't have

3012
01:44:49,109 --> 01:44:47,600
the people that i love

3013
01:44:51,510 --> 01:44:49,119
around me and i'm not able to recognize

3014
01:44:52,470 --> 01:44:51,520
them at least then that also is somewhat

3015
01:44:54,390 --> 01:44:52,480
meaningless

3016
01:44:56,229 --> 01:44:54,400
at least to me at least right now yeah

3017
01:44:58,790 --> 01:44:56,239
that's because where you are now

3018
01:44:59,350 --> 01:44:58,800
and you know the way you see life and so

3019
01:45:02,390 --> 01:44:59,360
on and

3020
01:45:03,669 --> 01:45:02,400
an ego that wants to continue on as you

3021
01:45:05,510 --> 01:45:03,679
and wish to continue on those

3022
01:45:06,149 --> 01:45:05,520
relationships because you know your

3023
01:45:07,430 --> 01:45:06,159
children

3024
01:45:09,669 --> 01:45:07,440
your wife you know there's people who

3025
01:45:11,030 --> 01:45:09,679
are dear to you and you want that to

3026
01:45:14,390 --> 01:45:11,040
continue on

3027
01:45:15,830 --> 01:45:14,400
it doesn't that's that is here when you

3028
01:45:18,870 --> 01:45:15,840
die

3029
01:45:21,270 --> 01:45:18,880
your awareness of your life here begins

3030
01:45:24,390 --> 01:45:21,280
to fade like a dream

3031
01:45:26,070 --> 01:45:24,400
and you don't continue that it's it's

3032
01:45:28,229 --> 01:45:26,080
not practical

3033
01:45:29,590 --> 01:45:28,239
yes that's kind of soft and warm and

3034
01:45:31,590 --> 01:45:29,600
it's comforting

3035
01:45:32,950 --> 01:45:31,600
but it doesn't work that way because it

3036
01:45:35,990 --> 01:45:32,960
isn't

3037
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:36,000
functional it doesn't work so let's say

3038
01:45:39,590 --> 01:45:37,520
here you are and you've been through ten

3039
01:45:41,669 --> 01:45:39,600
thousand lifetimes and you've had uh ten

3040
01:45:43,750 --> 01:45:41,679
thousand sets of parents's you've had

3041
01:45:45,270 --> 01:45:43,760
thirty thousand children whatever and

3042
01:45:45,830 --> 01:45:45,280
you're going to remember all those and

3043
01:45:46,709 --> 01:45:45,840
want to

3044
01:45:49,350 --> 01:45:46,719
do something with all those

3045
01:45:52,870 --> 01:45:49,360
relationships or is it just the last 20

3046
01:45:53,750 --> 01:45:52,880
or the last 500 you know it doesn't work

3047
01:45:56,229 --> 01:45:53,760
that way

3048
01:45:57,189 --> 01:45:56,239
that just is going to wide you up into a

3049
01:46:01,350 --> 01:45:57,199
big ball

3050
01:46:04,070 --> 01:46:01,360
of of uh stuff that is emotionally

3051
01:46:05,750 --> 01:46:04,080
grabbing at you and it's not going to be

3052
01:46:08,310 --> 01:46:05,760
functional at all

3053
01:46:10,310 --> 01:46:08,320
each time you take what you've learned

3054
01:46:11,270 --> 01:46:10,320
you graduate from third grade and you

3055
01:46:14,470 --> 01:46:11,280
take what you've learned

3056
01:46:15,990 --> 01:46:14,480
and you go into fourth grade and it's a

3057
01:46:17,750 --> 01:46:16,000
new experience new teacher

3058
01:46:19,189 --> 01:46:17,760
new subjects expect you to know new

3059
01:46:22,550 --> 01:46:19,199
things

3060
01:46:23,270 --> 01:46:22,560
so you it's that comfort of you being

3061
01:46:31,030 --> 01:46:23,280
you

3062
01:46:33,350 --> 01:46:31,040
kurt

3063
01:46:34,149 --> 01:46:33,360
then you have this problem but of you in

3064
01:46:35,510 --> 01:46:34,159
your mind

3065
01:46:37,189 --> 01:46:35,520
is your individuated unit of

3066
01:46:39,109 --> 01:46:37,199
consciousness the collector of all the

3067
01:46:42,470 --> 01:46:39,119
experience if that's you

3068
01:46:43,910 --> 01:46:42,480
then you lives on forever and it's not a

3069
01:46:45,830 --> 01:46:43,920
problem

3070
01:46:48,149 --> 01:46:45,840
you realize that these relationships you

3071
01:46:51,109 --> 01:46:48,159
have now as meaningful as they are

3072
01:46:52,550 --> 01:46:51,119
they happen because those are the people

3073
01:46:54,390 --> 01:46:52,560
you ran into if you're born on the

3074
01:46:56,709 --> 01:46:54,400
opposite side of the planet uterine

3075
01:46:57,990 --> 01:46:56,719
you'd run into different people and next

3076
01:46:59,270 --> 01:46:58,000
lifetime you're going to run into

3077
01:47:01,430 --> 01:46:59,280
different people

3078
01:47:02,709 --> 01:47:01,440
too and most of your learning comes from

3079
01:47:03,910 --> 01:47:02,719
these relationships they're very

3080
01:47:07,590 --> 01:47:03,920
important

3081
01:47:09,510 --> 01:47:07,600
they're very significant but

3082
01:47:11,109 --> 01:47:09,520
you know so is your third grade teacher

3083
01:47:13,590 --> 01:47:11,119
significant but you don't make her come

3084
01:47:16,629 --> 01:47:13,600
along under the fourth grade with you

3085
01:47:19,270 --> 01:47:16,639
it's done it's

3086
01:47:20,950 --> 01:47:19,280
so yeah that's that's a cold prickly

3087
01:47:21,990 --> 01:47:20,960
kind of thought to a lot of people who

3088
01:47:24,629 --> 01:47:22,000
see themselves as their

3089
01:47:26,629 --> 01:47:24,639
body they want that body person to

3090
01:47:27,189 --> 01:47:26,639
continue and all those relationships to

3091
01:47:29,430 --> 01:47:27,199
continue

3092
01:47:30,229 --> 01:47:29,440
because that's kind of warm and and

3093
01:47:33,430 --> 01:47:30,239
whatever and

3094
01:47:35,750 --> 01:47:33,440
i guess christianity tends to tends to

3095
01:47:36,390 --> 01:47:35,760
satisfy that warm fuzzy feeling some

3096
01:47:38,790 --> 01:47:36,400
because

3097
01:47:40,390 --> 01:47:38,800
that's something a lot of people like

3098
01:47:41,430 --> 01:47:40,400
you know it's a very attractive thing to

3099
01:47:44,709 --> 01:47:41,440
offer

3100
01:47:45,590 --> 01:47:44,719
but that's that's um and islam yeah

3101
01:47:47,750 --> 01:47:45,600
that's not how it

3102
01:47:49,430 --> 01:47:47,760
that's not really how it works it's not

3103
01:47:51,109 --> 01:47:49,440
practical it's not logical

3104
01:47:52,790 --> 01:47:51,119
the system you know i didn't put

3105
01:47:54,390 --> 01:47:52,800
reincarnation in my system because i

3106
01:47:55,590 --> 01:47:54,400
thought it was a really cool idea in the

3107
01:47:57,430 --> 01:47:55,600
buddha like that you know i

3108
01:48:00,310 --> 01:47:57,440
put it in there because it was logically

3109
01:48:03,350 --> 01:48:00,320
necessary for the system to work

3110
01:48:05,030 --> 01:48:03,360
and okay okay oh man there's one bit

3111
01:48:06,790 --> 01:48:05,040
i i know i gotta go and i know i keep

3112
01:48:07,750 --> 01:48:06,800
getting you but here's what here's

3113
01:48:08,950 --> 01:48:07,760
something that

3114
01:48:11,189 --> 01:48:08,960
if i'm being honest here's something

3115
01:48:13,990 --> 01:48:11,199
that always

3116
01:48:14,709 --> 01:48:14,000
i guess it's like a splinter in the mind

3117
01:48:16,629 --> 01:48:14,719
to use the

3118
01:48:17,990 --> 01:48:16,639
term from the matrix with when i was

3119
01:48:20,950 --> 01:48:18,000
reading your book it's at

3120
01:48:22,470 --> 01:48:20,960
times there's a denigration of thinking

3121
01:48:23,430 --> 01:48:22,480
of the world in a traditional sense

3122
01:48:27,030 --> 01:48:23,440
because aoun

3123
01:48:29,830 --> 01:48:27,040
aum is so outside of what we can fathom

3124
01:48:31,510 --> 01:48:29,840
it's so enigmatic but then at the same

3125
01:48:33,109 --> 01:48:31,520
time there seems to be a selective

3126
01:48:34,870 --> 01:48:33,119
applying of certain principles

3127
01:48:36,950 --> 01:48:34,880
that we can fathom here so let's say you

3128
01:48:38,709 --> 01:48:36,960
use some entropy analogies or you use

3129
01:48:41,270 --> 01:48:38,719
the word logic but even logic

3130
01:48:42,790 --> 01:48:41,280
itself there's para consistent logic

3131
01:48:44,790 --> 01:48:42,800
there's classical logic there's

3132
01:48:48,470 --> 01:48:44,800
intuitionist logic that's not clear

3133
01:48:50,390 --> 01:48:48,480
so then i'm like well why is it that auo

3134
01:48:52,310 --> 01:48:50,400
if one was to apply the traditional man

3135
01:48:54,390 --> 01:48:52,320
in the sky or if one was hindu

3136
01:48:55,750 --> 01:48:54,400
brahman brahma or brahmin and we are

3137
01:48:56,310 --> 01:48:55,760
just part of the infinite dreams of

3138
01:48:58,149 --> 01:48:56,320
brahmin

3139
01:48:59,750 --> 01:48:58,159
then those are to be destroyed as well

3140
01:49:01,030 --> 01:48:59,760
as other formulations like it's a

3141
01:49:01,350 --> 01:49:01,040
consciousness that we can even conceive

3142
01:49:04,950 --> 01:49:01,360
of

3143
01:49:08,310 --> 01:49:06,709
i think you understand what i'm saying i

3144
01:49:10,709 --> 01:49:08,320
don't understand what you're saying yeah

3145
01:49:12,550 --> 01:49:10,719
and i would tell you that these are all

3146
01:49:14,229 --> 01:49:12,560
these are all different models

3147
01:49:15,830 --> 01:49:14,239
and these models are basically built

3148
01:49:17,589 --> 01:49:15,840
with metaphors

3149
01:49:19,270 --> 01:49:17,599
all of my model is metaphor the larger

3150
01:49:20,310 --> 01:49:19,280
conscious system is a metaphor for

3151
01:49:22,629 --> 01:49:20,320
source

3152
01:49:24,149 --> 01:49:22,639
uh you know individual unit of conscious

3153
01:49:24,790 --> 01:49:24,159
is a metaphor free well awareness unit's

3154
01:49:27,270 --> 01:49:24,800
a metaphor

3155
01:49:29,109 --> 01:49:27,280
all these things are metaphors for

3156
01:49:30,149 --> 01:49:29,119
functions of consciousness that are

3157
01:49:31,750 --> 01:49:30,159
necessary

3158
01:49:33,910 --> 01:49:31,760
in order to model consciousness

3159
01:49:35,910 --> 01:49:33,920
accurately so that's what they are

3160
01:49:38,310 --> 01:49:35,920
other other there are other models

3161
01:49:39,350 --> 01:49:38,320
around and these other models have their

3162
01:49:41,669 --> 01:49:39,360
own metaphors

3163
01:49:43,430 --> 01:49:41,679
and their own tool sets things they make

3164
01:49:45,750 --> 01:49:43,440
up tools or things that you create

3165
01:49:47,669 --> 01:49:45,760
could make it easier to understand so

3166
01:49:50,550 --> 01:49:47,679
there's all sorts of models around

3167
01:49:51,990 --> 01:49:50,560
and i would tell you that to be a seeker

3168
01:49:55,030 --> 01:49:52,000
stay

3169
01:49:56,950 --> 01:49:55,040
skeptical and see how it works for you

3170
01:49:59,109 --> 01:49:56,960
where does it take you and that's how

3171
01:50:02,229 --> 01:49:59,119
you decide not with your intellect

3172
01:50:05,510 --> 01:50:02,239
but by trying it becoming it

3173
01:50:07,510 --> 01:50:05,520
living it thinking about it

3174
01:50:08,950 --> 01:50:07,520
but applying it not just thinking not

3175
01:50:10,310 --> 01:50:08,960
just coming up a bunch of intellectual

3176
01:50:11,910 --> 01:50:10,320
stuff inside your head that you can

3177
01:50:13,189 --> 01:50:11,920
contrast and compare

3178
01:50:15,669 --> 01:50:13,199
that's not going to really help you

3179
01:50:18,470 --> 01:50:15,679
learn anything you need to actually

3180
01:50:20,310 --> 01:50:18,480
walk that path do those things and see

3181
01:50:22,070 --> 01:50:20,320
how does it feel what are you learning

3182
01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:22,080
what are you getting from it you walk

3183
01:50:25,910 --> 01:50:23,760
that path for six months and

3184
01:50:27,669 --> 01:50:25,920
are you a better person now do you feel

3185
01:50:29,270 --> 01:50:27,679
good a year from now

3186
01:50:31,430 --> 01:50:29,280
after that when you get to the point you

3187
01:50:33,350 --> 01:50:31,440
say no i'm not really changing any it's

3188
01:50:36,229 --> 01:50:33,360
not really doing that much for me then

3189
01:50:38,390 --> 01:50:36,239
go someplace else thousands and

3190
01:50:40,470 --> 01:50:38,400
thousands of different paths that all

3191
01:50:41,189 --> 01:50:40,480
will take you to the same place as long

3192
01:50:43,990 --> 01:50:41,199
as you stay

3193
01:50:45,030 --> 01:50:44,000
open-minded and skeptical you will

3194
01:50:48,310 --> 01:50:45,040
always get

3195
01:50:50,390 --> 01:50:48,320
to the end point you'll make it it may

3196
01:50:51,109 --> 01:50:50,400
be a circuitous path but you will make

3197
01:50:54,470 --> 01:50:51,119
it

3198
01:50:56,629 --> 01:50:54,480
so just go do experience be

3199
01:50:58,310 --> 01:50:56,639
don't just think about it don't keep it

3200
01:51:01,589 --> 01:50:58,320
all in your head

3201
01:51:04,709 --> 01:51:01,599
and then ask the question

3202
01:51:06,790 --> 01:51:04,719
is it helping am i better is my life

3203
01:51:08,070 --> 01:51:06,800
better am i happier are my relationships

3204
01:51:11,109 --> 01:51:08,080
better is it working

3205
01:51:13,910 --> 01:51:11,119
in the book i say taste the pudding and

3206
01:51:15,350 --> 01:51:13,920
if it's working for you do more of it

3207
01:51:18,950 --> 01:51:15,360
when it stops working for you

3208
01:51:21,109 --> 01:51:18,960
do less of it go somewhere else

3209
01:51:22,310 --> 01:51:21,119
okay that sounds like a great place to

3210
01:51:24,070 --> 01:51:22,320
end it man

3211
01:51:26,790 --> 01:51:24,080
thank you so much again for your extreme

3212
01:51:29,270 --> 01:51:26,800
generosity and i gotta get going

3213
01:51:30,790 --> 01:51:29,280
i'm a bit late but have a great one man

3214
01:51:38,629 --> 01:51:30,800
i appreciate it

3215
01:51:43,189 --> 01:51:41,430
i'm going to read some thoughts thomas

3216
01:51:45,189 --> 01:51:43,199
campbell was one of the most highly

3217
01:51:47,189 --> 01:51:45,199
requested guests on this podcast

3218
01:51:48,709 --> 01:51:47,199
so i try to be as thorough as possible

3219
01:51:50,310 --> 01:51:48,719
i'm interested in the truth

3220
01:51:52,229 --> 01:51:50,320
though plenty of people consider him to

3221
01:51:54,629 --> 01:51:52,239
be pseudoscience

3222
01:51:56,470 --> 01:51:54,639
i think that's unfair while i get plenty

3223
01:51:57,109 --> 01:51:56,480
of praise for interviewing jeremy

3224
01:51:59,990 --> 01:51:57,119
corbell

3225
01:52:01,830 --> 01:52:00,000
on ufos there were quite a few who

3226
01:52:03,750 --> 01:52:01,840
disliked the subject matter being

3227
01:52:06,950 --> 01:52:03,760
broached

3228
01:52:08,470 --> 01:52:06,960
i happen to dislike anathema's if you're

3229
01:52:09,990 --> 01:52:08,480
telling me that there's a realm of

3230
01:52:11,189 --> 01:52:10,000
knowledge that should be limited to a

3231
01:52:12,950 --> 01:52:11,199
certain sphere

3232
01:52:14,229 --> 01:52:12,960
and it's disallowable to explore what's

3233
01:52:17,350 --> 01:52:14,239
outside that sphere

3234
01:52:19,669 --> 01:52:17,360
then i'm immediately skeptical let me

3235
01:52:21,750 --> 01:52:19,679
come to my own conclusions

3236
01:52:23,669 --> 01:52:21,760
you're watching this because you want to

3237
01:52:26,149 --> 01:52:23,679
come to your own conclusions

3238
01:52:27,830 --> 01:52:26,159
and that's wonderful that's great those

3239
01:52:29,669 --> 01:52:27,840
open-minded and exacting

3240
01:52:31,910 --> 01:52:29,679
individual thinkers that's what this

3241
01:52:34,310 --> 01:52:31,920
channel is about that's who it's for

3242
01:52:35,990 --> 01:52:34,320
my final thoughts are pretty much that i

3243
01:52:37,669 --> 01:52:36,000
have my gripes i'm not convinced that

3244
01:52:39,189 --> 01:52:37,679
he's anywhere near to deriving the

3245
01:52:41,430 --> 01:52:39,199
fundamental laws

3246
01:52:42,790 --> 01:52:41,440
of physics mathematically i see his

3247
01:52:44,550 --> 01:52:42,800
theory as being so vast

3248
01:52:46,790 --> 01:52:44,560
that whatever the mathematical nature of

3249
01:52:48,470 --> 01:52:46,800
our laws do turn out to be

3250
01:52:50,070 --> 01:52:48,480
it can still be incorporated into his

3251
01:52:52,390 --> 01:52:50,080
model because auo

3252
01:52:54,229 --> 01:52:52,400
which is absolute unbounded oneness is

3253
01:52:56,390 --> 01:52:54,239
so much like a blank parchment

3254
01:52:57,350 --> 01:52:56,400
and ink that whatever equations you

3255
01:52:59,430 --> 01:52:57,360
write on it

3256
01:53:00,550 --> 01:52:59,440
the auo can say well yes i predicted

3257
01:53:02,470 --> 01:53:00,560
that because that's

3258
01:53:03,750 --> 01:53:02,480
pen on paper i'm not saying anything

3259
01:53:05,990 --> 01:53:03,760
that i haven't said to thomas or

3260
01:53:08,149 --> 01:53:06,000
wouldn't say to thomas campbell

3261
01:53:09,750 --> 01:53:08,159
but again this is all for you to decide

3262
01:53:10,470 --> 01:53:09,760
on your own i'm just giving you my own

3263
01:53:12,149 --> 01:53:10,480
thoughts

3264
01:53:14,229 --> 01:53:12,159
in many ways i'm still simply a

3265
01:53:15,830 --> 01:53:14,239
cretinous imbecile who knows nothing

3266
01:53:17,990 --> 01:53:15,840
and i don't think i'm capable of

3267
01:53:19,510 --> 01:53:18,000
articulating thomas's theory

3268
01:53:21,030 --> 01:53:19,520
back to him in a way that he would agree

3269
01:53:22,629 --> 01:53:21,040
which means i don't understand it which

3270
01:53:23,109 --> 01:53:22,639
means i'm not in a position to judge it

3271
01:53:26,550 --> 01:53:23,119
yet

3272
01:53:30,470 --> 01:53:26,560
okay that's that i have to get some rest

3273
01:53:32,950 --> 01:53:30,480
i have to eat i have to break my fast

3274
01:53:34,950 --> 01:53:32,960
have a good night and of course please

3275
01:53:36,629 --> 01:53:34,960
let me know your thoughts

3276
01:53:38,149 --> 01:53:36,639
i hate to say this because i'm not i

3277
01:53:39,510 --> 01:53:38,159
don't consider myself to be a youtuber

3278
01:53:40,229 --> 01:53:39,520
but if you're not subscribed please

3279
01:53:42,229 --> 01:53:40,239
subscribe